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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:11 AM   #1
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Please look at my chart - implantation or AF??


Would you girls mind taking a look at my chart?

I'm cd23 and 9dpo. Took my temp this morning at 6am, an hour earlier than usual because I just woke up naturally and it was very low, just below coverline. Took it again an hour later and it was up a good bit but not as high as it has been over the last few days. I'm hoping it might, just might, be a sign of implantation but the dip looks almost exactly the same as last month when it dipped for AF to come. My LP last month was 11 days I think and I'm only 9dpo now so hoping it's way too early for AF to be paying a visit but I can't ignore the similarity in the dips. What do you girls think?

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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:18 AM   #2
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Hi Hun

How long are your cycles usually?
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Temp drop could be due to inconsistent time of taking? but could also be due to implantation... You just need to wait until tomorrow & if it goes up again then it could well be an implantation dip.

If your cycles are normally 28/29 days this is a definitely good sign for you but if you sometimes have short cycles it could simply be AF on her way.

Let us know how you get on. Good luck xx
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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:39 AM   #4
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My cycles have been anything from 23 to 30 days since coming off BCP in October but they average out at about 27 days. If my luteal phase was 11 days last cycle and 10 days before that (without B6) then I wouldn't have expected AF until Friday at the very earliest. I've taken my temps an hour early before during this cycle and it hasn't shown a dip anything close to this before. Just not sure what to think!
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Hiya I don't want to alarm you but you might want to think about seeing a doctor if your Luteal phase is very short?

It needs to be a minimum of 10 days to support a pregnancy & they may be able to give you something to help lengthen it slighty to increase your odds.

- I'd just wait and see if it rises again tomorrow (I know its hard hun but there's not really anything else you can do at the moment)

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Old Jul 2nd, 2008, 12:04 PM   #6
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Hi there,

Well, I'm going to give you my honest opinion (but I am no expert) and I am going to tell you exactly what I would be thinking if this was my chart.

Firstly, I've looked at your previous charts and can see that you haven't temped for too many so far. FF likes to have about 5 charts completed before it gives you really good indications about your ovulation day and of course the charts you complete can only make interpretations on the information you input.

I see you use a monitor and that you have PEAK's which is fantastic. This indicates that you are ovulating (in my opinion) so that's a really good thing. You don't have enough cycles charted as I've said to give a good indication of your average length of cycle over a long period of time, so we can only go on what we have. However, your ovulation day seems so far to range within a week.

I reckon FF has given you an estimated ovulation day based on your temps, as it would normally choose one of the PEAK days for the red cross hairs. You would probably find that if you took out the temp on your indicated ovulation day, it would move one day back and show that you ovulated on the second PEAK day. I reckon this would be more accurate.

This would mean that you are in fact 10DPO and not 9 as you are shown now. Therefore the drop in temperature would indicate your AF is on the way and not implantation.

I reckon you could do with some vitamins to try to lengthen you LP as it is a tad short ... that doesn't mean you can't conceive, it just means that perhaps some B6 could help widen your goal posts so to speak. I wouldn't waste any time and visit your GP or health nurse and discuss your LP length which will put your mind at ease and you will get the proper advice as to which vitamin/supplement you can take to stretch it out (if you need them ... I don't really know because I am not medically trained by know some ladies who have conceived without problems with an 11 day LP).

Your charts are really nice and have a lovely pattern of temperature rise, so you are certainly ovulating and I reckon when your chart is a pregnancy one, there will be no doubt about it.

I actually hope I am wrong, but either way my interpretation is just that, an interpretation. It's so tantalizing wishing and waiting at the end of your cycle and I am tired of the anxiety is causes myself, so understand your longing for answers. I hope an honest opinion helps in some way and I hope I'm wrong and your temperature surprises us all and skyrockets tomorrow.

Always sincere and sending lots of love and your way.
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Thanks guys. I really did have high hopes for this cycle but I guess it might be the end of the road this time. I was taking 50mg B6 last month which seemed to increase my LP from 10 days to either 11 or 12 depending on whether I'm taking ov to be one day after my first cbfm peak or two days. I increased my B6 to 100mg this month so was hoping my LP would increase even more so definitely wasn't expecting AF this soon, seems like the B6 hasn't worked at all this cycle if she shows up
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I was just thinking, my chart does show quite a large rise on the day FF says I oved so I would have thought that would be more reliable for figuring out when I ov than the cbfm?? I'm confused about it all, maybe charting was a bad idea!
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Don't really know what I'm looking for but it seems like the dip is much earlier than last cycle?
I so so hope AF is not on her way
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I was just thinking, my chart does show quite a large rise on the day FF says I oved so I would have thought that would be more reliable for figuring out when I ov than the cbfm?? I'm confused about it all, maybe charting was a bad idea!

I think charting is a good idea but tedious at times. There is always the possibility that one of your temps is slightly out for lots of different reasons. If your temp was wrong for CD14 then your ovulation day would be CD14 with the big temperature rise following it. There is always a little ambiguity in them because we are relying on taking a temperature following sleep when we could easily have been restless during the 3 hours before waking, which would affect the temperature. I've noticed lately that the smallest change to the chart can change your ovulation day for you, so I've learned not to trust it entirely.

For example, this month I am waiting to confirm ovulation and it looks like it is later than normal. I've played around with my own chart putting in OPK readings and taking them out as I think I've missed my positive OPK, then I've put in some guestimates as to what my temp will do over the next few days and it shows a different ovulation day depending on whether the OPK readings are inserted or not.

I really think it's a possibility that you ovulated a day earlier than shown, which would give you a longer LP, which is a good thing and your B6 will have helped you. Don't despair as the answers will be revealed when your chart is finished with a BFP or the dreaded AF.

PS: Your CBFM is measuring the hormones in your urine, so I would trust that when it gives you a PEAK. In fact, I would trust it even more than temping unless you are a deep sleeper.

PPS: I know you didn't chart for your last cycle, but looking at that chart and your CM and monitor readings, I would guess an ovulation day of CD16 (the second day PEAK) which would indicate a 12 day luteal phase ... that's quite good). Statistically the FF charts choose the second PEAK day of monitor readings to indicate the day of ovulation.
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