i agree with the other also, i was out at least a week after shopping as i needed stuff for babs and it did us both good, staying in the house that long would have killed me.

Wow - this is a thread an half indeed! I think the original poster obviously has a lot of anger inside her but there must be a pretty good reason for that- she has had a MC? I think all of us must be guilty of snapping and losing our tempers, saying things we really shouldn't say from time to time, that's just being a woman. Looks like a cry for help to me.
The 40-day rule is "in force" here in Bulgaria. The idea is that while of course kiddies do need exposure to germs in order to develop healthy immune systems, newborns have under-developed immune systems and are extremely susceptible to infections. My own view is that 40 days is much too long however!

I would have been upset that she was just setting the stereotype for young mothers. I hate when I see these 14 or 15 year olds saying "oh I want a baby so bad." NO YOU DON'T. They are still babies.

god there was no way that i would have stayed in with Ewan for 40 days, i needed to get out with him to keep my confidence and KNOW that i could get out.
I think what you said was very harsh and you should appologise to the girl, imagine if it had been the other way round and you have brought your baby to show off, i don't think you would have been happy.
I took Ewan in to a veterinary surgery when he was 2 weeks old and personally i wasnt worried about germs, kids are kept away from germs too much these days no woneder they have no immunity!

My mom took my sister camping with us when she was a new born....

Was alot of fun...

Also, dont you think that there are 10x's as many germs at a hospitol with all them sick people there waiting to be treated? Anyways.... You have all made great points....

I am choosing on to comment on the issues that actually happened, but feel that emotions both at the time on the event and on here are running high. I think this is a good place to say how we feel about all things as it causes debates like this and we should just keep respecting everyone's opinion. Socophoenix - please keep posting and like I said - everyone is entitled to their own opinion

Hello Socophoenix,

Your choice of title caught my eye and led me to reading this thread. I feel quite sad that you have expressed such anger and actually think that although the responses will most likely seem harsh to you, they are all in their own way justified.

Firstly, I should like to say that I hope you are feeling calmer now and able to reflect on the incident and how you handled it. I believe at the time, you allowed your emotions to overrule your head and I promise you I have witnessed this a hundred times or more and know that it is neither enjoyable for the angry person (yourself) or the recipient(s). Recipients = people receiving the telling off.

I am aware that you are only 17 years old yourself and for an older person like myself (I'm 46) it would be easy for me to point the finger at you and tell you off, but I don't think anything would be gained by that and besides, I think you actually might need someone to talk to.

Please read everyone's responses carefully and try to understand the reaction you have provoked via the internet by posting how you have reacted. There is a lot to learn there about how your anger and upset could and most likely has effected others.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and if you wish to express that to the other person (in this case the young mother at your college), this could perhaps be done at a better time and place. Keeping your voice calm and most certainly hiding your true feelings may have been more productive. You could have mentioned it to the girl at a later date asking her if she was not worried about the baby catching a cold through germs of college students. Taking on her mother was totally inappropriate too as this woman is an adult and you should really learn to respect your elders. I am sure this is how it is in your own home, that you respect your own mother and other older people in the family. When you have little ones of your own, you will want and expect them to respect you.

You mention that you have had a miscarriage and that you have been trying for ages to get pregnant again. Going through so much is very trying on your nerves and many people need to seek counselling following such a traumatic event. Do you have anyone you can speak to? Are there any freephone numbers you can call to speak to someone who can just listen if need be. Here in the UK we have an organization called "CHILDLINE" and they would be an ideal port of call for someone of your age and in your situation.

I would recommend stepping back from the situation and thinking about it. Firstly you need to think about yourself and what you have been through. You need to realise that you may be expecting too much from yourself at the tender age of 17. I don't know what the laws are in your part of the world, but here in the UK the legal age for sexual intercourse is 16 and at 17, you are still of an age where you can be put into a Care Home, should someone call social services about yourself, your behaviour and your suitability to have children of your own. In fact if you are under 18 and display unacceptable public behaviour on a regular basis, your child if you had one could be taken off you and put into care. I mention this because you threatened these people with Social Services and who knows, they may seek revenge on you in the future. You can't hide from them as you go to college together.

Another thing to bear in mind and it is an important one is that your behaviour constitutes a criminal offence and in this country you could have been arrested and charged with a public order offence or affray.

Honey, you need to think very carefully about how you feel. You must be very upset about all the replies here, but it's important that you recognize that these people are not enemies on this forum, they are women who love children as much as yourself and would prefer to see you feeling happy and more balanced. Your outburst is a sign that you are stressed beyond your limits and not able to control yourself like the young adult you will soon grown into. All is not lost as long as you see this as a warning and seek help to sort your inner emotions out.

One last thing, don't forget that whilst you were shouting at the 13 year old, you forgot that you are only a teenager yourself and think about it, you are only FOUR years older than this person. Again, in this country you would still be considered a juvenile.

I sincerely hope you can put this incident behind you and learn from it and take the advice that is given with an open heart and a genuine motive.

Tish - you put into words what we all think in a brilliant way.

If not a bit long winded, but I thought it was important.

Beautifully and thoughtfully put from a kind lady, such empathy x x x