The blue line.

anita665 · Dec 18th, 2007, 08:28 AM

I just though I would share with you all some info which I found a while ago. I can't remeber the names of the studies it came from because it was several months ago now. It shows how hard the battle to become pregnant is, why those who do it quickly are very lucky and why those who haven't managed after a long time trying or have suffered m/c's shouldn't give up hope. It's just nature & nature likes to make it hard for us.

I'm sure that most of you will have read similar stuff before.

I hope I don't upset anyone as at times this info does make it look very tough to concieve or maintain a pregnancy but we all know it does happen. Hopefully you can just use this info to help you along.

> The Luteinizing hormone surge is very brief & can be tricky to catch each month. The hormone at the right level to give you a dark, positive line on your ovulation test should show up in your urine 4 to 5 hours after being released by your body. Normally you will have a positive test for just 24 hours but if the LH surge is caught right at the start it can show positive for upto 3 days. Ovulation usually occurs 36 hours following the surge but it can be hard to judge when the start of the surge actually was. Some factors, such as health, stress and PCOS can alter the time of the month you would normally ovulate or stop it happening all together some months.

> Sex needs to be timed just right. Some say the sperm can live for up to 3 days if it's during your fertile period but the fact is there needs to be a good supply waiting when the egg is released as it's life span is short at 24 to a maximum 48 hours. Sperm can take around 5 hours to make it to their goal after sex.

Here are your chances of concieving on each day around ovulation. 0 is the day of ovulation, -5 is 5 days before + 3 is 3 days after.

-5 = 0% -4 = 11% -3 = 15% -2 = 20% -1 = 26% 0 = 15% +1 = 9% +2 = 5% +3 = 0%

> There is evidence to suggest that if conception takes place a day or 2 after ovulation then the m/c rate is higher as the egg quality will have suffered.

> If you've been lucky enough to have egg meet sperm then 84% of implantation occurs 8-10 days after ovulation. Implantation after this time again often ends in m/c.

> Unfortunatly around 70 - 85% of conceptions will not result in implantation. This varies with age and can increase to 90%. This is usually due to chromosomal abnormalities.

> The first HCG can be detected 6-12 days after ovulation but rarely earlier than 7 days.

> After implantation your risk of m/c drops by the day. It is estimated that 50% of pregnancies are lost (after implantation) before the first 12 weeks but only 20% of these are known. Most of the losses happen before your period is missed so you may never know you were pregnant.

> Most losses are due to chromosomal abnormalities. Either you will have just the amniotic sack and placenta growing or there would have been someting wrong with the baby so it's natures way or sparing us that. The chances of this increase with age.

> This explains why sometimes your period may happen a few days late or a few days early sometimes. If the pregnancy fails before your period was due you may bleed early or if it takes a while to come away it may be a little late but because it has already failed you wont get a positive test.

> The chances of miscarriage first drop once the heart is beating and then the biggest drop happens around 12/14 weeks, once the vital organs are formed and the placenta has taken over the role of supporting your baby.

> When testing for pregnancy, the tests work by detecting HCG. This can only be produced in 2 ways. One is pregnancy and the other is a molar pregnancy (occurs in 1 in 1000 pregnancies in the UK). This means that if the test is positive, it cannot be wrong. If you later test and it's negative then either your urine is too weak to detect the hormone or you have had an early miscarrige. If a test shows negative in the first place though, then you may still be pregnant and need to test again as the HCG may not have had enough time to build up to be strong enough for the test to detect.

ColtonsMom · Dec 18th, 2007, 08:35 AM

Thats crazy! Not very hard to believe though.

I think it would vary person from person though. Because I think women in my family are very fertile. I got pregnant without trying, and my mom got pregnant with my little brother while ON BC, and not trying!!
I dont know though, maybe just good timing?!

Good luck to all those TTCers!! Hope you get that lucky BFP!

anita665 · Dec 18th, 2007, 08:41 AM

Yeah I think it does vary. Some people must also just be luckier than others and age & health make a huge difference. My nan said with all of her kids she just decided she wanted to get pregnant and that month she would!! I've had a couple of unplanned pregnancies too but they ended in early m/c's. If only it was that easy for everyone.

Carolina · Dec 18th, 2007, 08:41 AM

really interesting...just shows how it isnt easy!

ColtonsMom · Dec 18th, 2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by anita665

Yeah I think it does vary. Some people must also just be luckier than others and age & health make a huge difference. My nan said with all of her kids she just decided she wanted to get pregnant and that month she would!! I've had a couple of unplanned pregnancies too but they ended in early m/c's. If only it was that easy for everyone.

Thats crazy! With my mom, she was on BC and not trying; but her and my ex step dad decided they were going to TTC when she finished her BC. She only had like a month or two of BC left, but she didn't get to finish them because she got a BFP that month.

NeyNey · Dec 18th, 2007, 15:45 PM

- That turns the light on......

I think I might just turn it off again, and enjoy the oblivious dark

Dec 18th, 2007, 08:28 AM	#1
anita665 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 2,689	The blue line. I just though I would share with you all some info which I found a while ago. I can't remeber the names of the studies it came from because it was several months ago now. It shows how hard the battle to become pregnant is, why those who do it quickly are very lucky and why those who haven't managed after a long time trying or have suffered m/c's shouldn't give up hope. It's just nature & nature likes to make it hard for us. I'm sure that most of you will have read similar stuff before. I hope I don't upset anyone as at times this info does make it look very tough to concieve or maintain a pregnancy but we all know it does happen. Hopefully you can just use this info to help you along. > The Luteinizing hormone surge is very brief & can be tricky to catch each month. The hormone at the right level to give you a dark, positive line on your ovulation test should show up in your urine 4 to 5 hours after being released by your body. Normally you will have a positive test for just 24 hours but if the LH surge is caught right at the start it can show positive for upto 3 days. Ovulation usually occurs 36 hours following the surge but it can be hard to judge when the start of the surge actually was. Some factors, such as health, stress and PCOS can alter the time of the month you would normally ovulate or stop it happening all together some months. > Sex needs to be timed just right. Some say the sperm can live for up to 3 days if it's during your fertile period but the fact is there needs to be a good supply waiting when the egg is released as it's life span is short at 24 to a maximum 48 hours. Sperm can take around 5 hours to make it to their goal after sex. Here are your chances of concieving on each day around ovulation. 0 is the day of ovulation, -5 is 5 days before + 3 is 3 days after. -5 = 0% -4 = 11% -3 = 15% -2 = 20% -1 = 26% 0 = 15% +1 = 9% +2 = 5% +3 = 0% > There is evidence to suggest that if conception takes place a day or 2 after ovulation then the m/c rate is higher as the egg quality will have suffered. > If you've been lucky enough to have egg meet sperm then 84% of implantation occurs 8-10 days after ovulation. Implantation after this time again often ends in m/c. > Unfortunatly around 70 - 85% of conceptions will not result in implantation. This varies with age and can increase to 90%. This is usually due to chromosomal abnormalities. > The first HCG can be detected 6-12 days after ovulation but rarely earlier than 7 days. > After implantation your risk of m/c drops by the day. It is estimated that 50% of pregnancies are lost (after implantation) before the first 12 weeks but only 20% of these are known. Most of the losses happen before your period is missed so you may never know you were pregnant. > Most losses are due to chromosomal abnormalities. Either you will have just the amniotic sack and placenta growing or there would have been someting wrong with the baby so it's natures way or sparing us that. The chances of this increase with age. > This explains why sometimes your period may happen a few days late or a few days early sometimes. If the pregnancy fails before your period was due you may bleed early or if it takes a while to come away it may be a little late but because it has already failed you wont get a positive test. > The chances of miscarriage first drop once the heart is beating and then the biggest drop happens around 12/14 weeks, once the vital organs are formed and the placenta has taken over the role of supporting your baby. > When testing for pregnancy, the tests work by detecting HCG. This can only be produced in 2 ways. One is pregnancy and the other is a molar pregnancy (occurs in 1 in 1000 pregnancies in the UK). This means that if the test is positive, it cannot be wrong. If you later test and it's negative then either your urine is too weak to detect the hormone or you have had an early miscarrige. If a test shows negative in the first place though, then you may still be pregnant and need to test again as the HCG may not have had enough time to build up to be strong enough for the test to detect.

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Dec 18th, 2007, 08:35 AM	#2
ColtonsMom Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 2,651	Thats crazy! Not very hard to believe though. I think it would vary person from person though. Because I think women in my family are very fertile. I got pregnant without trying, and my mom got pregnant with my little brother while ON BC, and not trying!! I dont know though, maybe just good timing?! Good luck to all those TTCers!! Hope you get that lucky BFP!

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anita665 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 2,689	Yeah I think it does vary. Some people must also just be luckier than others and age & health make a huge difference. My nan said with all of her kids she just decided she wanted to get pregnant and that month she would!! I've had a couple of unplanned pregnancies too but they ended in early m/c's. If only it was that easy for everyone.

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Carolina Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 917	really interesting...just shows how it isnt easy!

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NeyNey Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 8,581	- That turns the light on...... I think I might just turn it off again, and enjoy the oblivious dark

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