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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 12:53 PM   #1
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maintenance NOT through CSA?


Just a quick question for single mummies.

Say the FOB moved about 250 miles away from you and his LO and you went to CSA. Then the FOB emailed you saying that he's not working whilst your trying to get money from him via CSA but the minute you stop with CSA there will be £40 a week in your account without fail would you be happy with that?

Also if FOB rang LO every weekend and came back as much as he can to see LO aswell as picking LO on school holidays and bring LO down to stay with him for a few days and few weeks on summer holidays would you be ok with this?

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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 13:32 PM   #2
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anyone please?


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 13:57 PM   #3
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what do you ladies think? I would really like some opinions please? whether you think this agreement is ok or not please? Would you agree to it? x


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:09 PM   #4
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If i understand correctly, what your trying to say is that the fob will quit his job unless the mother stops with the csa? Which is a pretty shitty thing to do in my opinion. £40 a week is not a lot. Why is the fob trying to get out of paying more?? The csa will only take what the fob can afford (if i remember right) so if the fob can spare it, it should be going to his child.

The arrangement for seeing the lo is ok, but if i was the mother in that situation i would still go ahead with the csa. Why should he get away with paying as little as he possibly can? He should want to pay as much as he can. I would probably tell him he can see lo when he's ready to stop being so selfish.

If £40 was genuinley all a fob can afford, then obviously that would be fine, but if they are working it should and would be a lot more. Its absolute bullshit that a man thinks he can get away with paying the absolute minimum, when the mother has to slog her guts out paying for everything, sorry if that sounds harsh, i just dont see why a fob would want to pay as little as possible if he can afford to pay more.

Sorry if i misunderstood the situation.


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:17 PM   #5
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If i understand correctly, what your trying to say is that the fob will quit his job unless the mother stops with the csa? Which is a pretty shitty thing to do in my opinion. £40 a week is not a lot. Why is the fob trying to get out of paying more?? The csa will only take what the fob can afford (if i remember right) so if the fob can spare it, it should be going to his child.

The arrangement for seeing the lo is ok, but if i was the mother in that situation i would still go ahead with the csa. Why should he get away with paying as little as he possibly can? He should want to pay as much as he can. I would probably tell him he can see lo when he's ready to stop being so selfish.

If £40 was genuinley all a fob can afford, then obviously that would be fine, but if they are working it should and would be a lot more. Its absolute bullshit that a man thinks he can get away with paying the absolute minimum, when the mother has to slog her guts out paying for everything, sorry if that sounds harsh, i just dont see why a fob would want to pay as little as possible if he can afford to pay more.

Sorry if i misunderstood the situation.
The CSA worked out FOB money and said that he has to pay £40 a week, so FOB hasn't just made up that figure thats what they said he had to pay.

No he's not working as we have recently moved but I am. I said I would pay the £40 a week until FOB gets a job because if we wait until FOB gets a job there will be back dated payments from CSA and we can't afford that backdated so we said I would pay the money everyweek.

So MOB would still get the same amount but it would be coming from me not the CSA.

But you dont think this is ok? Its just because FOB emailed her last night saying he will make sure the money is in her account every week (I will be payng but she doesnt know that) but he wont do it through csa because he is not working and obviously we didnt want the back dated payments when we could pay it now.

But CSA worked out its £40 a week not us. x


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:25 PM   #6
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I think that's ok. As long as the money was in every week without fail. The minute payments started being late or were missing i would go to CSA. And i would be expected to be updated the minute he got a job or his circumstances changed to make sure he is paying the correct amount that he can afford towards LO.
As long as MOB and FOB are both on speaking terms and have a good relationship (or as good as can be expected) then there is no real reason to go through CSA. Should only do it if FOB is unwilling to make the correct payments towards his LO.


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:31 PM   #7
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I think that's ok. As long as the money was in every week without fail. The minute payments started being late or were missing i would go to CSA. And i would be expected to be updated the minute he got a job or his circumstances changed to make sure he is paying the correct amount that he can afford towards LO.
As long as MOB and FOB are both on speaking terms and have a good relationship (or as good as can be expected) then there is no real reason to go through CSA. Should only do it if FOB is unwilling to make the correct payments towards his LO.
That is totally understandable. But it would be me paying and I'm not a man (I know they can be arseholes) so I wouldnt do that to MOB as I know she needs his money especially now she has a new born baby with another man who she is no longer with. I'm only on shift work and supporting me and OH atm until he finds work but I will make sure money is in the account. She hasn't replied though so I'm a little worried that she wont agree and then we have to wait for FOB to get a job and we will end up with a HUGE back dated debt.... x


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:34 PM   #8
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Sorry i should have asked that first

Then i agree with everthing bloodbines said


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 14:42 PM   #9
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I think that's ok. As long as the money was in every week without fail. The minute payments started being late or were missing i would go to CSA. And i would be expected to be updated the minute he got a job or his circumstances changed to make sure he is paying the correct amount that he can afford towards LO.
As long as MOB and FOB are both on speaking terms and have a good relationship (or as good as can be expected) then there is no real reason to go through CSA. Should only do it if FOB is unwilling to make the correct payments towards his LO.
That is totally understandable. But it would be me paying and I'm not a man (I know they can be arseholes) so I wouldnt do that to MOB as I know she needs his money especially now she has a new born baby with another man who she is no longer with. I'm only on shift work and supporting me and OH atm until he finds work but I will make sure money is in the account. She hasn't replied though so I'm a little worried that she wont agree and then we have to wait for FOB to get a job and we will end up with a HUGE back dated debt.... x
So i'm guessing you're the FOBs partner?

Hopefully she will agree as it seems what is best for her LO. Though does she know that it is you paying? As she might not be too happy with that. The FOB has a moral need to pay for his LO, but his partner has no strings to the LO, and if you two were to break up, the payments would stop and might take a lot of effort and time to set them back up again with FOB paying. I wouldn't be too happy with my FOBs partner paying his maintanance for him. I'd want him to pay it himself. But then again, that is just my view and the MOB might be fine with it!


 
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 15:03 PM   #10
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I think that's ok. As long as the money was in every week without fail. The minute payments started being late or were missing i would go to CSA. And i would be expected to be updated the minute he got a job or his circumstances changed to make sure he is paying the correct amount that he can afford towards LO.
As long as MOB and FOB are both on speaking terms and have a good relationship (or as good as can be expected) then there is no real reason to go through CSA. Should only do it if FOB is unwilling to make the correct payments towards his LO.
That is totally understandable. But it would be me paying and I'm not a man (I know they can be arseholes) so I wouldnt do that to MOB as I know she needs his money especially now she has a new born baby with another man who she is no longer with. I'm only on shift work and supporting me and OH atm until he finds work but I will make sure money is in the account. She hasn't replied though so I'm a little worried that she wont agree and then we have to wait for FOB to get a job and we will end up with a HUGE back dated debt.... x
So i'm guessing you're the FOBs partner?

Hopefully she will agree as it seems what is best for her LO. Though does she know that it is you paying? As she might not be too happy with that. The FOB has a moral need to pay for his LO, but his partner has no strings to the LO, and if you two were to break up, the payments would stop and might take a lot of effort and time to set them back up again with FOB paying. I wouldn't be too happy with my FOBs partner paying his maintanance for him. I'd want him to pay it himself. But then again, that is just my view and the MOB might be fine with it!
Yeah I'm his partner.

I understand about us splitting up but its just until OH finds a job then he will be paying and will pay me back too. I understand you wouldnt want his partner paying but if I don't she doesnt get any money and think she would rather be paid.


 
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