Repeat S/A

missmarls · Jul 4th, 2009, 07:06 AM

Hi all!
I don't post very often, but I'm always lurking and reading all the posts. So, my DH finally went for his repeat S/A and results were much better than before:
count: 21 million/ml (was 9 million)
Motility: 50% (was 30%)
Normal Morphology: 60% (was 55%)

My question is this; what is a considered a good level of normal sperm morpholgy? Everything I've read says at least 15%, so I figuered 60% was good...but my doctor said he should only have 10% abnormal. He has finally referred us to a specialist, but the clinic is 2 hrs away and with DH in school right now and me in a newer job, getting time to go there will be tough. Do you think we have any chance of doing this naturally? We will be trying IUI next, but not sure when we will be able to get down to clinic for consult

Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading!

rachelle1975 · Jul 4th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Hey miss marls, what fantastic news! Have a google of the world health orgs guidelines I'm pretty sure your results rock. We were told to aim for 20-99 million count, at least 50% motility and at least 30% morphology. With this amazing improvement you could possibly conceive naturally surely? What did the fs say about natural conception ?x

Kelly9 · Jul 4th, 2009, 15:37 PM

My doc told me that 15% normal was what you wanted at least but I think that is with the kreuger scale. There are 2 different way to measure I think. My DH has only 10% normal sperm and the doc said that getting him to %15 normal would be ideal. I think on the other scale having at least 30% normal sperm is ideal. SO you should be great for morphology!

missmarls · Jul 4th, 2009, 18:48 PM

Thanks for your answers ladies!
Rachelle, I haven't spoken to the FS yet...my appt with regular Dr. was yesterday and they were sending my referral that afternoon. I'm curious to see what the FS has to say...he's also the same FS my sister went to and she got pregnant pretty much right away. (By the way my little nieces who were born at 28/29 weeks are doing AMAZING...lovely wee girlies

)

rachelle1975 · Jul 5th, 2009, 07:53 AM

OMB I remember you saying shen they were born, so pleased they're ok. Can't wait to hear what your fs says

hopefulfor09 · Jul 7th, 2009, 09:20 AM

Those are pretty good numbers.....there are two scales they measure morphology on - the Kruger Scale and the WHO scale. Most fertility specialists don't use the WHO scale they use the Kruger Scale which is a lot more strict.... Anything over 30% on the WHO morphology scale (which is definitely the one they've used) is good. So you're in the clear. My DH has strick Kruger morphology of 4% and motility of 40% - mind if I ask if you've done anything to increase his numbers?

Good luck.

missmarls · Jul 7th, 2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hopefulfor09

Those are pretty good numbers.....there are two scales they measure morphology on - the Kruger Scale and the WHO scale. Most fertility specialists don't use the WHO scale they use the Kruger Scale which is a lot more strict.... Anything over 30% on the WHO morphology scale (which is definitely the one they've used) is good. So you're in the clear. My DH has strick Kruger morphology of 4% and motility of 40% - mind if I ask if you've done anything to increase his numbers?

Good luck.

We haven't really done too much, last year he was taking Maca and multivitamins but hasn't in about six months! I think the major change was his job...he's back in University and presently doing an internship (mid-life crisis

) at a golf course so he's eating well and smoking less, but the major factor was that he was a glassblower and would spend 8-10 hours a day in the stifling hot glass shop! I think he was probably cooking the little buggers. He still goes in the shop but only for a few hours at a time and not every day anymore. This S/A was about three months after he started the internship so the timing makes sense...oh, and no more scalding hot baths for him (although this did result in alot of sulking on his part). All I can say is not to go by one S/A and try the Maca and Zinc for sure, alot of people see a vast improvement with it .
Good luck!

beauty · Jul 7th, 2009, 10:46 AM

Missmarls, is that your dog on the pic? ooooooooooooo god that is just to cute!
xx

missmarls · Jul 8th, 2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by beauty

Missmarls, is that your dog on the pic? ooooooooooooo god that is just to cute!
xx

Yes she was a beautiful girl! We just lost her at 14 years old to cancer in January and we are still absolutely devastated...I miss her everyday

beauty · Jul 8th, 2009, 07:33 AM

Arhhhhhhhh she too cute, I have a collie she is 14 yrs old too.. she is a rascal..
xx

Jul 4th, 2009, 07:06 AM	#1
missmarls Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ontario,canada Posts: 260	Repeat S/A Hi all! I don't post very often, but I'm always lurking and reading all the posts. So, my DH finally went for his repeat S/A and results were much better than before: count: 21 million/ml (was 9 million) Motility: 50% (was 30%) Normal Morphology: 60% (was 55%) My question is this; what is a considered a good level of normal sperm morpholgy? Everything I've read says at least 15%, so I figuered 60% was good...but my doctor said he should only have 10% abnormal. He has finally referred us to a specialist, but the clinic is 2 hrs away and with DH in school right now and me in a newer job, getting time to go there will be tough. Do you think we have any chance of doing this naturally? We will be trying IUI next, but not sure when we will be able to get down to clinic for consult Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading!

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rachelle1975 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Surrey Posts: 9,105	Hey miss marls, what fantastic news! Have a google of the world health orgs guidelines I'm pretty sure your results rock. We were told to aim for 20-99 million count, at least 50% motility and at least 30% morphology. With this amazing improvement you could possibly conceive naturally surely? What did the fs say about natural conception ?x

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Kelly9 Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Spammer Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 20,356	My doc told me that 15% normal was what you wanted at least but I think that is with the kreuger scale. There are 2 different way to measure I think. My DH has only 10% normal sperm and the doc said that getting him to %15 normal would be ideal. I think on the other scale having at least 30% normal sperm is ideal. SO you should be great for morphology!

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missmarls Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ontario,canada Posts: 260	Thanks for your answers ladies! Rachelle, I haven't spoken to the FS yet...my appt with regular Dr. was yesterday and they were sending my referral that afternoon. I'm curious to see what the FS has to say...he's also the same FS my sister went to and she got pregnant pretty much right away. (By the way my little nieces who were born at 28/29 weeks are doing AMAZING...lovely wee girlies)

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Jul 5th, 2009, 07:53 AM	#5
rachelle1975 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Surrey Posts: 9,105	OMB I remember you saying shen they were born, so pleased they're ok. Can't wait to hear what your fs says

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hopefulfor09 Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,138	Those are pretty good numbers.....there are two scales they measure morphology on - the Kruger Scale and the WHO scale. Most fertility specialists don't use the WHO scale they use the Kruger Scale which is a lot more strict.... Anything over 30% on the WHO morphology scale (which is definitely the one they've used) is good. So you're in the clear. My DH has strick Kruger morphology of 4% and motility of 40% - mind if I ask if you've done anything to increase his numbers? Good luck.

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beauty Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,792	Missmarls, is that your dog on the pic? ooooooooooooo god that is just to cute! xx

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beauty Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,792	Arhhhhhhhh she too cute, I have a collie she is 14 yrs old too.. she is a rascal.. xx

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