I write this post a day ago and someone suggetsed I start a new thread to see if anyone can help me.

I am new to these forums but have been reading them for ages so thought I would give it a go. I am feeling really down and feel I need to share with people who understand.

I am 35 and have been waiting for my boyfriend to come round to the idea of having babies for ages!!!! Dont mean to blame him but I now feel desperate! I have been ttc since Nov. I wouldn't really be worried yet but I have been using the clearblue fertility monitor and my luteal phase is only 5-6 days. Have had 2 day 21 progesterone tests The first was on day 23 (as the hospital was closed on day 21) and that was normal - but I got AF just a few days later. The second was day 21 and that showed no signs of ovulation. I had only had my LH surge that day so I wasn't surprised! Have now been referred for other fertility blood tests and an HSG but won't see doctor until June!!

Tried 50-100mg of vitamin b6 this month and also vitex until ovulation (this monthe only) but have got spotting today which means my luteal phase is the shortest it has ever been at 5 days!!!! Have ordered some progesterone cream for next month - does anyone know if I can take that with vitex? Also I have ordered some Maca - does anyone know if that can be taken with vitex? have also got some dong quai - is that ok with vitex?

I just wondered if anyone knows of anything that can help with this - feels pointless trying every month when I know there is no time for implantation!!!

Would love some advice as am feeling really low.

I have a lpd have been ttc for about 14 cycles with 1 m/c. I am seeing a fs but he doesnt seem to think a lp defect is a problem. He is more treating me for unexplained infertility.

Do not to count cd1 as the first day of spotting cd1 is the first day of a proper flow so ur lp maybe a few days longer than u think? If i counted mine as the 1st day of spotting mine would be crazily short. When i did feel preg i got the normal spotting then it went and i got a before i m/c.

Where u taking any birth control, cos it can take 1 month for every year u were on it to get out of ur system.

I have tried all thos supplements and nothing worked for me. I do know many girls on here with lpd that have got preg and stayed preg.

I would say u havent been ttc very long, so u never know whats round the corner, and June isnt very far away and u will have only been trc about 8 months by then.

Good luck hope it works out for u. XXX

Hiya

Thanks for your help.

Sorry to hear about your mc and I hope you have some good news soon. I know I haven't been ttc that long - suppose I am just feeling really negative at the mo! Didn't realise that you did not count spotting as day 1 though - that extends my lp for about 1-2 days which is a start. Also - good to hear others have had success with a short lp.

I am finding this forum really helpful.

Let me know how you get on xxx

Where u on birth control before November? I'm just hoping ur lp will lenghten a little, i know ow frustrating it is

No -I haven't taken any birth control for years. It never really suited me as I used to get loads of spotting.

It's odd because there seem to be so many different opinions on lpd. The stuff that I have read on the net generally says implantation takes at least 6 days and any LP less than 10 days is an issue. However, the nurse that I saw for blood tests didn't seem to bothered by it at all! (Same as your fs.) Very confusing.

I am thinking of maybe going to see a herbalist but it is a bit expensive and I'm not sure if it's worth it. If you don't mind me asking - which supplements did you try and for how long? Doctors don't really know much about alternative medicine and it might be worth giving it a go before I get any conventional treatment.

I hope you are feeling supported by your fs. My experience of doctors is that some are excellent and some terrible - it's just pot luck! Hopefully it wont be to long now for you xxx

Yeah i investigated a herbalist but like u say very expensive. I have found that medical people seem to think lpd is an urban myth however there happy to write off something like 30% of infertile couples to unexplained infertility? Weird hey?

I tried B6, angnus castus, maca and rasberry leaf for about 9 months.

My FS is wonderful, one of the top in the country he even has books published. He hasnt totally disregarded lpd, but i start clomid next month, which he is giving me for unexplained infertilty, but he says it will support my lp.

Ask away if there is anything else i can help u with. I know what its like to find this prob and worry, even if u havent been ttc long u still want answers and to make sure u get the best possible chance.

When u say see the dr in June is that the FS? X

From what I have read chlomid does help with lp so good luck with that.

Yes I will be seeing the fs in June. I have been for 1 appointment with the fs nurse and she was really dismissive of lpd - so much so that I didn't really trust what she was saying. It made me worry more because the last thing I want is for anything to be overlooked!! I suppose I am lucky to have got the ball rolling early on though - some of my friends didn't use ovulation tests for ages and I am just so glad that I started testing with them straight away.

I am booked in for an HSG next week. I guess I just need to try and relax - though that's so hard when everone around you seems to be getting pregnant easily. Thanks for all of you help - I really appreciate it!

Thats wonderful to have seen the nurse already. FYI i fell preg the cycle i had my hsg, its suppose to be MAGIC and worked for me, hope u get a sticky bean. XXX

Some doc's don't even believe Luteal Phase Defect actually exists. In the beginning of your cycle if your follicles are strong and growing and there is enough LH hormone to sustain ovulation - LPD would be a none issue. So in my opinion it's about the strength of your hormones/follicles which develops BEFORE ovulation - which determines a short luteal phase. You should look into clomid, which can be taken for LPD because it enhances the quality/quantity of your follicles and hormones at the beginning of your cycle - which in turn will lengthen your luteal phase because you will ovulate sooner.

Another thing you can try is asking your GYN about progesterone supplements which should be taken AFTER confirmed ovulation and until your missed period (if pregnant u can continue taking them until 2nd trimester)

hope I helped
xxx

Ohh & My luteal phase averages 14-17 days and I haven't concieved in 3 years of trying. So it's not always the determining factor...

Some doc's don't even believe Luteal Phase Defect actually exists. In the beginning of your cycle if your follicles are strong and growing and there is enough LH hormone to sustain ovulation - LPD would be a none issue. So in my opinion it's about the strength of your hormones/follicles which develops BEFORE ovulation - which determines a short luteal phase. You should look into clomid, which can be taken for LPD because it enhances the quality/quantity of your follicles and hormones at the beginning of your cycle - which in turn will lengthen your luteal phase because you will ovulate sooner.

Another thing you can try is asking your GYN about progesterone supplements which should be taken AFTER confirmed ovulation and until your missed period (if pregnant u can continue taking them until 2nd trimester)

hope I helped
xxx

Ohh & My luteal phase averages 14-17 days and I haven't concieved in 3 years of trying. So it's not always the determining factor...