Thanks for your help everyone.

I am going to ask the specialist about chlomid. Does anyone know how long you have to have been trying before you can try this on the NHS?
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Over a year. XXX

I've just read your thread.....and thought I'd drop by to say that we seem to have the same story.
I'd love to compare notes and also just provide and receive some moral support as I am now at my wits end.

I'd never really questioned why I spotted until we started TTC in November. Its been happening every month for at least the past 2 years. It begins on 7DPO and starts with a pink tinged CM, gradually building up over 4 days to a short burst of bright red blood on 11DPO. Nothing happens then for 3 days, and then my period starts. This happens month in month out like clockwork.
I started taking agnus castus, raspberry leaves and also B6. I take 800mg agnus castus, 800mg raspberry leaves and began by taking 50mg B6. That was 3 months ago. The first month, no change, so I upped the B6 to 100mg the next month, still no change so the third month I upped it to 150mg. This time the spotting was much heavier. I did conceive though, and then had an early miscarriage. Horrible.
I have started seeing a traditional chinese medicine fertility expert who says that my body is horribly out of sync and has prescribed lots of herbs which I brew to make a tea and drink once a day (taste worse than terrible) as well as acupuncture.
I have also changed GPs as the one I had was no use at all, and this new one seems a bit more on the case. I am going to get my blood tested on day 2 and day 21 to check fsh lh and progesterone (although I have already had them tested before) but am really concerned that I will never be able to sustain a pregnancy in the future (which is running out slightly for me at 39)

I'd be so interested to hear more about your symptoms and experiences and compare notes.

I spoke with my OB today because my general practicioner seems to think I have luteal phase defect due to having only 9 days between ovulation and the start of my period. According to my OB, the amount of days really has nothing to do with it. He says it is diagnosed by endometrial biopsy at a specific time of the month. If I am not pregnant this month after having a great follicle (today) CD14 and the trigger shot, he is going to do the endometrial biopsy next month.

Glad you got somewhere with your doctor Wanting More - I have heard that soem doctors diagnose using that method and others dont - very confusing! Medical professionals seem to vary so much in how they diagnose/treat LPD - its ery confusing!!!

OMG Laughing girl cant believe we even started trying at the same time! It's just so depressing. I get spotting usually around 6 days past ovulation - it starts of very browny/pinky but over 2 days it gets heavier beofre I get AF. Yous doesn't sound quite the same as mine. Daisyduke (who is also on here) mentioned that you do not count the days that you spot before af and I have read loads of stuff that says the same thing now so hopefully your LP is longer than you think. Still I knw how worrying it is when things just don't seem right. My periods are very long (including the spotting they last for 9 days - GROAN!! - though at least 3 days of this is just light spotting at the beginning and end.)

I have heard such differing things about herbs etc. Some people have said agnus castus/b6/red raspberry leaf work wonders so I am giving it a go - thoguh I am also taking maca. I have to wait until June to see the fs so I will give them a go until then - fingers crossed. I hope your herbs help - chinese medicine has a very good reputation - maybe I should give it a go too!

I have been to see the doctor and the fertility nurse and they did the exact same blood tests on me - don't know the results of the day 2-4 ones yet though. I got referred to the fs as my progesterone tests weren't normal and I cried and acted like a stressed out wierdo to the GP - totally genuine and did the trick!!! Don't let them fob you off - after 35 the recommendations are to check with medical professionals after 6 months of trying and if there are signs that things aren't quite right they should be wiling to see you!!

I am off for an HSG this afternoon and am praying that it helps.

Take Care xxxxx

P.s. sorry about you m/c - things must be really horrible for you at the mo. I really hope you have some luck soon. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Silarose

Let me know how things go this afternoon and how you progress in general....

I would def recommend Chinese Traditional Medicine - its quite a complicated subject but I started to read up on it with a book called The Infertility Cure which I highly recommend. I got it from Amazon.



and lots of luck to you from one LPD chick to another

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hi girls,
I'm in a similar boat to you guys. My lp this month was 8 days - sigh. But with no spotting before. Last month I had spotting from 5dpo, flow at 10 dpo and spotting afterwards, so a total of 14 days spotting. Before that I've had spotting/bleeding from 8-10 dpo. I tried B6 (100mg then 50 mg) but it's not helped me.
I've had spotting and bleeding for years when on BCP and implant - was pretty much every day at one point. So I had a coil that stopped my periods completely for 2 years. Had that removed last Sept to start TTC.

Anyway I saw my GP and at first she was a bit dismissive, she thought it was cervical erosion (can cause spotting) but my cervix and smear/pap test were fine. So she's sending me for a U/S to check for polyps, which can cause bleeding and stop me getting PG.

So that's 2 more possibilities for the spotting that you could badger your GP about!
Any spotting should be investigated in case of cervical cancer if you've not had a recent smear test.

Good luck girls. Please keep us up to date.

Hi everyone

I passed a chinese medicine place yesterday and have decided to give that a go if the agnus castus doesn't work.

The HSG was slightly wierd yesterday but I keeping my fingers crossed!!

Chocolate cat - let us know how you get on. My doctors hevn't mentioned anything like that - they have just done blood tests to check hormone levels. It's so confucing how everyone seems to get something slightly different from their doctor!!!!

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