Pregnancy - Third Trimester

beanie · Aug 29th, 2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bek74

There is a saying... " Breast milk is ONLY as good as the mothers diet". So if a mother smokes and doesn't eat well, then the baby doesn't eat well either.

Obviously if you are very malnourished then there can be an effecton your milk supply but generally the composition of your milk really does not vary much with your diet. It has been found that mthers in famine conditions can produce milk that is nutritionally perfect for their babies. However, one thing I found out was that like in pregnany, your body continues to put your baby first, and will put any nutrients baby's way first. Therefore your health may suffer if too many of your own reserves are used to provide milk, I struggled to eat for a while after the birth and felt llike poo but Seren did great.

As for smoking, I found this

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According to the LLLI THE BREASTFEEDING ANSWER BOOK, if the mother smokes fewer than twenty cigarettes a day, the risks to her baby from the nicotine in her milk are small. When a breastfeeding mother smokes more than twenty to thirty cigarettes a day, the risks increase. Heavy smoking can reduce a mother's milk supply and on rare occasions has caused symptoms in the breastfeeding baby such as nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, and diarrhea. (Vorherr 1974). By keeping smoking to a minimum, a mother can decrease the risk. When a mother smokes a cigarette, the nicotine levels in her blood and milk first increase and then decrease over time. The half-life of nicotine (the amount of time it takes for half the nicotine to be eliminated from the body) is ninety-five minutes. For this reason, a mother should avoid smoking just before and certainly during a feeding.

Compared to a bottlefeeding mother who is smoking the same amount there are actually more benefts with breastfeeding then bottlefeeding as baby still gets all the goodness from the breastmilk, and both mothers will have the residual effects of the smoke on their clothing breath etc.

I did find I had some resistance in the hopital but that was because I really wanted to breastfeed and they (rightly) said that any formula could affect my milk. However they still provided the formula, and my midwives afterwards never said anything negative. There was another mum on the ward who was bottle feeding and she never got any issues with asking for a bottle. It is your choice and if you are 100% happy with your choice then no-one can make you feel bad Just remember why you made this choice and the reasons for it, thats what I always did when people questioned my choices.

bexxie · Aug 29th, 2007, 19:58 PM

Melies bottles are currently sitting in a row of 6 in the fridge all made up and ready to put into the bottle warmer,I have also switched her onto Hipp Organic milk and that is a git to mix up. Do what you think is best coz we all do it different.

I coudl be here all day ranting about the mums today who had there babies in town with no cardi/blankie and it was cold..........*shivers* Now that is bloody stupid.
Bex

bek74 · Aug 30th, 2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beanie

Obviously if you are very malnourished then there can be an effecton your milk supply but generally the composition of your milk really does not vary much with your diet. It has been found that mthers in famine conditions can produce milk that is nutritionally perfect for their babies. However, one thing I found out was that like in pregnany, your body continues to put your baby first, and will put any nutrients baby's way first. Therefore your health may suffer if too many of your own reserves are used to provide milk, I struggled to eat for a while after the birth and felt llike poo but Seren did great.

As for smoking, I found this

Compared to a bottlefeeding mother who is smoking the same amount there are actually more benefts with breastfeeding then bottlefeeding as baby still gets all the goodness from the breastmilk, and both mothers will have the residual effects of the smoke on their clothing breath etc.

I did find I had some resistance in the hopital but that was because I really wanted to breastfeed and they (rightly) said that any formula could affect my milk. However they still provided the formula, and my midwives afterwards never said anything negative. There was another mum on the ward who was bottle feeding and she never got any issues with asking for a bottle. It is your choice and if you are 100% happy with your choice then no-one can make you feel bad Just remember why you made this choice and the reasons for it, thats what I always did when people questioned my choices.

I have a friend who ate junk food non stop, KFC ( fried chicken), Pizza, packets of crisps, chocolate, just rubbish really and her milk was so watery it had no texture and she ended up having to give her daughter a bottle. Second time around she ate really well ( reluctantly) and her milk was great.
So I guess it isn't the quantity, but the Quality that matters.

Kina · Aug 30th, 2007, 08:49 AM

It's great that her milk was 'better' 2nd time round, but maybe she just wasn't confident with her breastfeeding ability first time? I know there was nothing wrong with my milk when I had my DD, but she fed a lot longer than DS.
I was eating rubbish for the first 4 months of DS's life, then went on Weight Watchers and I haven't noticed a difference in my milk.

bek74 · Aug 30th, 2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kina

It's great that her milk was 'better' 2nd time round, but maybe she just wasn't confident with her breastfeeding ability first time? I know there was nothing wrong with my milk when I had my DD, but she fed a lot longer than DS.
I was eating rubbish for the first 4 months of DS's life, then went on Weight Watchers and I haven't noticed a difference in my milk.

No she was VERY confident and enjoyed it. I guess EVERYBODIES body works differently.

What does DD and DS mean ??????????????????? everybody uses so many abbreviations on here, I don't understand what I am reading most of the time, LOL. It toook me ages to figure out what BFN and BFP meant. I am only new here.

Jo · Aug 30th, 2007, 09:07 AM

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Kina · Aug 30th, 2007, 12:23 PM

[quote=bek74;123892]No she was VERY confident and enjoyed it. I guess EVERYBODIES body works differently.[quote]

Woah, take a chill pill love. Sorry I offended you! It's just I'd never heard of anyone being unable to breastfeed because they ate too much kentucky

bek74 · Aug 30th, 2007, 13:43 PM

[quote=Kina;123953][quote=bek74;123892]No she was VERY confident and enjoyed it. I guess EVERYBODIES body works differently.

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Woah, take a chill pill love. Sorry I offended you! It's just I'd never heard of anyone being unable to breastfeed because they ate too much kentucky

I don't think I need a chill pill as you say and I wasn't offended until now. I was just saying what her MW told her. She could breastfeed and was breastbreeding, it was the quality of her milk that was the problem. She had plenty of it, it just had no texture to it and it wasn't filling her daughter. All I am saying is that what has worked for you and others may not be the case for someone else ( maybe I didn't word it correctly). Everybodies body processes and breaks things down differently. Thats wonderful you ate rubbish for 4mths and your milk was great, good for you thats something to be proud of I guess, but that wasn't the case for my friend.
Like I said, everybody is different and all I did was express what happened with a friend of mine and you jump down my throat because that isn't what happened to you.What works for one doesn't always work for another. I don't appreciate the slap on the forehead smilie, I am not some young idiot that doesn't know anything, I have been there, I do have 3 children already.
All I ask is if you are going to reply to my comments can you please do it in an adult manner without the sarcasm.
Thankyou

bek74 · Aug 30th, 2007, 13:46 PM

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Thanks for the link Jo, that is great, now things are alot clearer.

Thankyou

Amanda · Aug 30th, 2007, 13:48 PM

I'm not joining in hun, but capital letters in posts and emails are deemed to be shouting, so I can sorta understand why Kina replied with what she did.

I know neither of you meant anything harsh by your posts, just don't want to see a new member either disappear, or argue with a long-standing member.

We all know that things can be taken completely out of context on here!

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