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bky · Mar 2nd, 2010, 21:54 PM

Has he always had trouble going when you take him for walks? Or is he used to going off the lead or on the lead? Dogs don't necessarily make associations, that is to say going outside to the toilet on the lead and off the lead may seem like two totally different things to them (and yes some dogs can make that mental leap, but it isn't a given). If this is a new thing then I'd agree there is something wrong and you should get to a vet. If this is a problem that has been getting worse then it's probably a behavior issue. Dogs also don't make associations between actions and reactions unless it's immediate. So punishing them unless you catch them in the act is generally not going to do much except make them afraid of their own wastes.
To be honest I don't think it's a bad thing to be giving him up as he sounds stressed and what you've tried doesn't work for him. He also doesn't seem to see you or your partner as dominant in the household. Both of those things means work with your behavior, not just his.

aliss · Mar 2nd, 2010, 22:03 PM

I'm not normally a fan of re-homing either, but I think in THIS case, it may be better for the dog and for the family. It has been four years and it sounds like they do not want to put the time and energy into further training (ie another behaviourist). Adding another member to the household is likely to compound the situation (it sounds like everyone, including the dog, is frustrated). Perhaps the dog would be better suited to a home with a single owner, maybe a retired person.

Tink1o5 · Mar 2nd, 2010, 22:29 PM

yup i'v tried crate training him too.. no results

Tink1o5 · Mar 2nd, 2010, 22:30 PM

Ya, me and DH were putting all perspectives together. And we know with a new baby we will not have the time nor patience to further train him... so i want to have him get a better home with somebody who will have all the attention in the world for him

acdmommy · Mar 3rd, 2010, 00:20 AM

is he maybe grieving his loss as well? just a shot in the dark, but i would like to say to you do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR family and dont listen to anything but your heart and your head...most shelters have a no kill policy these days. and if you have tried to make it work then good for you because i would not have had the patience to deal with it

i had a dog for 19 years and she passed away last july and i thought oh i will go an buy a puppy now and i couldnt for the life of me house train this puppy she now lives on a big farm where she was taught to herd the cows and sheep and i adopted an 1 year old dog that is perfect for me and my family!!!!!! i believe that what you are doing is for the best, and i also get to go and see my old puppy that i gave up every 2 weeks so it is nice... although wow would that be a hard decision to make as it was your fathers dog

i feel for you hun, but do what is best for you

Tink1o5 · Mar 3rd, 2010, 00:26 AM

Thanks so much for not judging me ACDMommy.

Yes its very hard as i love my pets very much. But im not only doing this for me and my new family but i am doing it for him as well.
I forgot to mention i live in an apartment on the 3rd floor with no backyard for him or anything. So i feel he deserves better, someone who will have all the time in the world for him and a home with a backyard and stuff.

its very hard but i just want whats best for everyone

coccyx · Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:59 AM

Why have adog with no back yard to go in? May have been trying to be kind taking this dog in , but would be better to let someone with time and knowledge and a garden have him.
Never rub a dogs nose in its urine or faeces, does not help house train them

Tink1o5 · Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:02 AM

First off , my dad got this dog for me when we lived in a House with a backyard.
I then after my dad passed away moved to colorado and rented an apartment thats why.

and i do have knowledge, thank you. That was uncalled for.

boonies86 · Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:57 AM

If one of my two labs bit me or showed any sign of snapping at me or my husband, as much as i love them so very much i would put them up for adoption. I would not risk having them around the baby.

I think the decision you are making must be so so hard, i can only imagine how devastated i would be. but u have to think of u and ur little baby!

i can see why u wud rub dogs face in mess, when ur desperate ur desperate. Its not something u shud be ashamed of or judged for!

Tink1o5 · Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:03 AM

Thank you Boonie. I apprecite that. And yes its VERY hard i love him to death, but its not fair to bring a baby into that environment and its not fair to the dog to not have all the attention and and ACTUAL house that he needs

Mar 2nd, 2010, 21:54 PM	#11
bky Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Christchurch, NZ Posts: 4,013	Has he always had trouble going when you take him for walks? Or is he used to going off the lead or on the lead? Dogs don't necessarily make associations, that is to say going outside to the toilet on the lead and off the lead may seem like two totally different things to them (and yes some dogs can make that mental leap, but it isn't a given). If this is a new thing then I'd agree there is something wrong and you should get to a vet. If this is a problem that has been getting worse then it's probably a behavior issue. Dogs also don't make associations between actions and reactions unless it's immediate. So punishing them unless you catch them in the act is generally not going to do much except make them afraid of their own wastes. To be honest I don't think it's a bad thing to be giving him up as he sounds stressed and what you've tried doesn't work for him. He also doesn't seem to see you or your partner as dominant in the household. Both of those things means work with your behavior, not just his.

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aliss AutoSignup (SAAB) BnB Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Québec Posts: 14,778	I'm not normally a fan of re-homing either, but I think in THIS case, it may be better for the dog and for the family. It has been four years and it sounds like they do not want to put the time and energy into further training (ie another behaviourist). Adding another member to the household is likely to compound the situation (it sounds like everyone, including the dog, is frustrated). Perhaps the dog would be better suited to a home with a single owner, maybe a retired person.

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Tink1o5 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 3,056	yup i'v tried crate training him too.. no results

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Tink1o5 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 3,056	Ya, me and DH were putting all perspectives together. And we know with a new baby we will not have the time nor patience to further train him... so i want to have him get a better home with somebody who will have all the attention in the world for him

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acdmommy Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Blue River, BC, Canada Posts: 509	is he maybe grieving his loss as well? just a shot in the dark, but i would like to say to you do what YOU think is BEST for YOUR family and dont listen to anything but your heart and your head...most shelters have a no kill policy these days. and if you have tried to make it work then good for you because i would not have had the patience to deal with it i had a dog for 19 years and she passed away last july and i thought oh i will go an buy a puppy now and i couldnt for the life of me house train this puppy she now lives on a big farm where she was taught to herd the cows and sheep and i adopted an 1 year old dog that is perfect for me and my family!!!!!! i believe that what you are doing is for the best, and i also get to go and see my old puppy that i gave up every 2 weeks so it is nice... although wow would that be a hard decision to make as it was your fathers dog i feel for you hun, but do what is best for you

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Mar 3rd, 2010, 00:26 AM	#16
Tink1o5 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 3,056	Thanks so much for not judging me ACDMommy. Yes its very hard as i love my pets very much. But im not only doing this for me and my new family but i am doing it for him as well. I forgot to mention i live in an apartment on the 3rd floor with no backyard for him or anything. So i feel he deserves better, someone who will have all the time in the world for him and a home with a backyard and stuff. its very hard but i just want whats best for everyone

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Mar 3rd, 2010, 01:59 AM	#17
coccyx Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: with the camels Posts: 2,578	Why have adog with no back yard to go in? May have been trying to be kind taking this dog in , but would be better to let someone with time and knowledge and a garden have him. Never rub a dogs nose in its urine or faeces, does not help house train them

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Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:02 AM	#18
Tink1o5 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 3,056	First off , my dad got this dog for me when we lived in a House with a backyard. I then after my dad passed away moved to colorado and rented an apartment thats why. and i do have knowledge, thank you. That was uncalled for.

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boonies86 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 495	If one of my two labs bit me or showed any sign of snapping at me or my husband, as much as i love them so very much i would put them up for adoption. I would not risk having them around the baby. I think the decision you are making must be so so hard, i can only imagine how devastated i would be. but u have to think of u and ur little baby! i can see why u wud rub dogs face in mess, when ur desperate ur desperate. Its not something u shud be ashamed of or judged for!

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Mar 3rd, 2010, 03:03 AM	#20
Tink1o5 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 3,056	Thank you Boonie. I apprecite that. And yes its VERY hard i love him to death, but its not fair to bring a baby into that environment and its not fair to the dog to not have all the attention and and ACTUAL house that he needs

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