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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:30 PM   #11
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I'm not sure I agree with having a baby after the menopause - to me, that's nature's way of saying that you are past child bearing age.
Obviously those who suffer early menopause should still be allowed to have ivf etc, but not women who go through the menopause at the natural age.
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Totally agree
Me too. The American women was ok, she's made it work but then she was only 50 not 70! I mean that really is 'pushing the boundary to far'.


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:44 PM   #12
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OMG she is 72 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:54 PM   #13
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I feel really sorry for the babies...Having a baby at 70 or 72 like that woman was trying is just irresponsible. There must be a very slim chance of her seeing her child's 18th birthday, let alone wedding, first baby etc. I know there are no guarantees that any of us will see these milestones, but we have a far greater chance of getting to say 50 to witness them, than her chances of getting to 88 for example.
These women, from my point of view, only seem to take into account their own thoughts and wishes and none of the child.
And its very sad.
As a society, we can accept people being too young to have babies (and I dont mean to upset or alienate anyone on here), but yet we can allow these women drawing their state pension to carry a baby?!


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:54 PM   #14
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Yep scary!! I actually hope she doesn't manage it, ever. I think she would struggle physically.


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:56 PM   #15
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Pippin - I'm 26 and there are days I struggle physically


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 17:58 PM   #16
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I'm 30 and I'm in pain with aching lady bits imagine having 70 year old muscles trying to stretch like ours are. OUCH!!!! I'm finding him heavy now, she would be bed bound for months I would imagine.


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 18:02 PM   #17
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I was actually choking back the tears for those two little lads cuddling their mummy who was dying of cancer. That is why IVF after the natural menopause is SO wrong.

I agree with IVF to help those who need it (early menopause etc) but otherwise mother nature should be left well alone. Very sad. That woman right at the end in her 70's really pissed me off actually. Totally self absorbed, didn't once justify her actions convincingly or seem to give a shit about the thoughts and feelings of the little one she would inevitably soon be leaving without a mummy. She just wouldn't listen to anyone!


 
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Old Jul 23rd, 2009, 18:05 PM   #18
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That woman right at the end in her 70's really pissed me off actually. Totally self absorbed, didn't once justify her actions convincingly or seem to give a shit about the thoughts and feelings of the little one she would inevitably soon be leaving without a mummy. She just wouldn't listen to anyone!
Yep I agree whole heartedly and did you see her house and what she'd expect them to live in!!!! Not good. Maybe she'll watch the programme and see how silly she looks.


 
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Old Jul 24th, 2009, 11:05 AM   #19
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Hopefully. I saw a magazine interview with her and she is on a state pension so not exactly the best way to support a child.

She didn't really seem to have any idea about what would happen when she actually had a baby, and I kind of thought, well if she was that desparate to have a child then why didn't she do IVF earlier?

The american woman was great, keeping herself healthy and she didn't look her age at all, she also had a younger husband who would be able to look after the girls whereas the 72 year old didn't seem to have anyone else and looked like she was having trouble getting around as it was.

I agree with you Pippin and Gersprincess, I'm only 23 and I'm starting to get uncomfortable, God knows what they would feel like!


 
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Old Jul 24th, 2009, 11:23 AM   #20
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I totally agree with you all - I'm all for IVF for those unfortunate enough to go through early menopause etc, but when you've left it til your 40's or above and have just missed your chance, I'm not so keen on the tax paying forking out for it and when you've crossed the 50's mark, you shouldn't be able to fund it yourself either. Isn't natures guideline proof that women over a certain age are not best placed to carry and raise children.

to try to bring a baby into the world in your 70's is quite disgusting. Yes anything could happen to any of us regardless of our ages, but when you've reached the life expectancy age, I think your chances of death by natural causes are significantly higher than a woman in her 20's or 30's.

My mum had me at 35 and I remember thinking she was old compared to a lot of my friends mums when i was in school and one reason I didnt want to wait til my mid 30's to have a child of my own is that I want her to be around to be a Grandma, luckily she's only 59 now so stands a good chance of seeing my baby grow up. My cousin is nearly 40 and our Gran is still around, she's seen him get married and have his own family. I want the same for my baby and mum.

These kids on the programme last night almost certainly won't even have parents in their 30's let alone a hope of an older extended family.


 
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