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Jul 12th, 2008, 11:15 AM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | SAdly some people see abortion as a form of contraception. It is not something I would ever do but am not completely anti abortion. I have worked in theatres where abortions were taking place, quite upsetting . | | | | Status: Offline
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Jul 12th, 2008, 12:36 PM
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| I just had to add to this. I was a teenager who became pregnant and actually wanted to put the baby up for adoption. I knew a couple who could not conceive and approached them with it. However, right after the wife conceived after years of trying. My mother pushed me for an abortion. In fact, I was faced with homelessness if I went through with having the baby. I knew nothing of getting government help and there was very little help. So, with a heavy heart, I agreed to an abortion and regret it to this day. After the abortion, I suffered heavy bleeding and blood clots. I wish the internet was around back then so I could have gone to an adoption agency and get help. I was not even offered advice on all of my options at the abortion clinic.
Forward 15 years later. I could not conceive after years of trying and went for infertility testing. I was told that I must have had an infection after the abortion because my tubes were completely blocked and scarred plus my ovaries were fused to the sides of my uterus. Thus, I would not be able to conceive without IVF and was accepted for treatment. But, my relationship broke down afterwards and I never went through with it.
All these years, until I reached 39, I believed I would not be able to have children. In fact, told my fiance (he is 7 years younger) if he wants children I am not the one for him because I was getting too old for IVF. And out of the blue I conceived naturally. And my son is due on the 26th of this month.
Although it can be argued that the person may resent the baby, etc, there is also an argument that this one abortion can haunt this girl for the rest of her life. I do believe abortion is seen as a form of contraception rather than as the ending of a human life. I know someone who worked in an abortion clinic who agreed that it is all too often used like this. If I had to do it all over again, I would have given my baby up for adoption to loving parents and felt I did the right thing.
I hope this girl is not pregnant. And if she is, I hope she looks at all possibilities before making such a rash decision. | | | | Status: Offline
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Jul 12th, 2008, 15:36 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | I have to say that several years ago I watched an abortion video on a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant. It broke my heart. It was brutal and horrid and to think that a fetus that age feels pain.....I could never even contemplate it.
Everyone has the right to make their own personal choice. My OH is from Poland and its still illegal there.
And I do understand that an abortion in early stages is very different. |
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Jul 12th, 2008, 18:40 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | When I read things like this I am glad my mother gave me up, she let her Aunt and Uncle raise me wince they could not have children after their miscarriage. I may have been raised by a couple older than my grandparents, but they gave me a life I would not have had if she would have made the decision on her own. I do still hold resentment towards her for not wanting me then but trying to have a close relationship now...but at least she let me live. |
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Jul 13th, 2008, 00:10 AM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | I think when you are 15 you hardly know what you want to do with your life. Also when you are 15 your are invincible. whenI was 15 I knew when I was going to have my children 1st a boy then a girl 2 years later. then you grow up and reality hits you. We have tried for 5 and 1/2 years for baby number 2, been through lots of heartache but when you are 15 life isn't like that, it's all rosy...
The thought of abortion for all of us on here would be horrendous I think... | | | | Status: Offline
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Jul 13th, 2008, 00:21 AM
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| I disagree.. unless you know her situation I don't think it's fair to comment like that. I suppose you don't know how much thought has gone into her decision? it would be far better for the girl to abort the baby and carry on with her life at that age, than have the baby that she doesn't want (for whatever reason), most likely can't afford and isn't ready for - with the possibility of the baby being taken into care/adopted.
I am against abortion unless there is a health risk/severe disability with mother or baby, the mother was raped or is seriously unable to cope financially/mentally. It's not a nice thought and I do get your point, a lot of young girls (and older women) use abortion as a form of contraception and it's really disgusting. |
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Jul 13th, 2008, 00:29 AM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | I can only imagine what it feels like for couples TTC and then hearing of stories like this!! However Im not totally against abortion!!! Yes... its completely disgusting when young girls use it as a form of contraception!! However 15 that is very young and even some girls my age the time just isnt right... and mistakes happen!!!
Its easy to say put the baby up for a abortion but really if you honestly thought about that .... carrying a baby for 9 months... potentially losing friends and school work etc suffering!! Its not so easy!
Even going through adoption isnt so easy.... studies after studies show they are less intelligent on average and more likely to end up in the CJS!! Also it is very very hard to adopt!!
It was stupid of her to just come out with "oh yeh ill have an abortion or even tell you she was suspecting you were pregnant"!!And she is showing her age there.... which goes to show she really isnt ready for a baby!! However u really dont know how long she has thought about it and played on her mind, and if my 15 yr old sister even my 17 yr old sister told me they were pregnant I would no way judge them on having an abortion!!
Thankfully Ive never been there but I know before I met my OH I would have been the same!!
Heard on news they are making it easier for abortions still... which personally I feel will have a negative effect as young girls will see that its easier to just abort therefore not prevent!!! Its going to be available in pill form where you can take at home!!
Sorry lolly but I disagree with what you said about being 15 and life is all rosy!! It completely wasnt for me!! |
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Jul 13th, 2008, 04:34 AM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | I just found out that I have hormone deficiency and that I don't ovulate on my own. I'm put on Clomid to ovulate and try to conceive our first. I haven't been pregnant before so I have no idea if I'll have any problems carrything the baby if I get pregnant. I've always dreamt of a large family and it hurts that I'm going to need Clomid each time to have my babies.
I am against abortion when it's used as a contraceptive method. That is disgusting.
Yet, it's nobody's business to tell a woman what to do with her own body so I don't understand people who try to pressure a woman one way or the other (not referring to anyone's post here, please don't take it personally).
I am not against very-early-term (4-8 weeks) abortion if proper precautions were taken and something happened to go wrong. If a condom-using 15yo gets pregnant because of the condom breaking, I wouldn't judge her if she has an abortion.
Adoption is an option but how about the pregnancy? A 15 yo girl's body isn't even fully developed yet, she could die during birth. She very likely won't be emotionally ready to go through the pregnancy. It's a big responsibility to carry a baby in your body for 9 months. Hormonal changes take their tolls on couples who are in relationships enough, I can't imagine a little girl (yes, a 15 yo is a little girl in my opinion) going through it on her own!
As icing on the cake, she's going to be judged by everyone around her. Nobody will see her as doing a noble deed even if she's going to giver her baby up for adoption. She's not a surragate mother, she's not old enough to take on such a responsibility.
I'm not even going to talk about how she doesn't even know what she wants in her life yet and how much she would be missing out on. Nobody can be expected to give up so much from her life when she's not ready.
Moreover, all this trauma is going to affect the baby. She's very possibly going to resent her baby, become a depressed, bitter person.
And the baby will suffer from all this stress too and will not have the healthy emotional start in the womb.
So, rather than throwing girls/women into situations they're not ready for and creating dysfunctional individuals (mom, baby, possibly the father, the grandparents), abortion can be the better option.
To me, it doesn't matter how old the woman is or what kind of a relationship she's in. It's her right to choose what she wants to do with her body, and go through the consequences, be it birth or abortion.
I don't support teenage pregnancies but if a teenage girl decides to keep her baby, I believe all we can do is just respect that choice. |
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Jul 13th, 2008, 04:39 AM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | I have to admit, before I found out I was pregnant I always swore i'd abort, but now it's happened to me I couldn't imagine not keeping it. It's a little baby in there, how could some people just kill it without any thought? I have to say there are a few reasons why i'd agree with abortion- conception was through rape and health risks to either bub or mum. I'm sure there are a couple more cases that i'd agree but can't think atm of them. |
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Jul 13th, 2008, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah88 I have to admit, before I found out I was pregnant I always swore i'd abort, but now it's happened to me I couldn't imagine not keeping it. It's a little baby in there, how could some people just kill it without any thought? I have to say there are a few reasons why i'd agree with abortion- conception was through rape and health risks to either bub or mum. I'm sure there are a couple more cases that i'd agree but can't think atm of them. | With that bolded bit, are you speaking about this girl? as it seems some of you don't think shes given it any thought.. which I bet is completely wrong, passing judgement without knowing what the poor young girl is going through.
If you meant that statement in general Sarah88, just ignore what I said.  |
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