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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:01 PM   #41
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I was told with my first 2, when I filled out the hospital forms that I was undecided, they refused to give me formula for them. I had someone run home and get me some, cus my sons needed to eat and I wasnt going to be forced to do what they wanted. My 4th they tried that also but I said bring me some, I will try to nurse if it doesnt work oh well, it worked tho...its awful that some nurses think its alright to force it cus its whats meant to be or a choice you had made prior but changed since.


 
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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:02 PM   #42
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I am sorry you had such trouble. That isn't very fair to you. No one should put off bringing you formula in an attempt to get you to try to BF. That is cruel to the baby and to you.


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However what I really resent when people compare BF to FF, is when they make comments regarding the bonding between you and your baby. Whether a baby is bottle feed or breast feed they will gaze up into your eyes. I have never had any issues bonding with my babies & I find comments that suggest that FF feed babies do not bond with their mothers very upsetting.

Ok, rant over
But! I don't think these bonding comments are meant to imply that FF babies don't bond with their parents. They do. There is no denying that. There is more to bonding than how a baby is fed. And a bottle fed baby can bond when fed a bottle. That is completely true.

But at the same time, the bond between a BF baby and mom is different to anything else. That is not to say it is better or stronger. Just different and special in its own way.

Just like you would rather not be made to feel that you won't bond with your baby because you FF, a BF mom doesn't want to be made to feel that the bond they feel isn't special. It is impossible to describe or understand this bond unless you have been there. We all have different things that make us feel close to our babies in different ways.

So, let's just accept that both FF and BF babies bond well to their mommies! The bond is different, but both are strong all the same.
Not going to argue about it.
But to make a comment like that I assume that you personally have one child that you have BF and one child that you have FF. You are therefore able to compare your bond between your two children.

If that is not the case, then I fail to see how you can you make such a ridiculous comment!!


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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:04 PM   #43
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So much for not arguing about it!


 
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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:06 PM   #44
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I am sorry you had such trouble. That isn't very fair to you. No one should put off bringing you formula in an attempt to get you to try to BF. That is cruel to the baby and to you.


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However what I really resent when people compare BF to FF, is when they make comments regarding the bonding between you and your baby. Whether a baby is bottle feed or breast feed they will gaze up into your eyes. I have never had any issues bonding with my babies & I find comments that suggest that FF feed babies do not bond with their mothers very upsetting.

Ok, rant over
But! I don't think these bonding comments are meant to imply that FF babies don't bond with their parents. They do. There is no denying that. There is more to bonding than how a baby is fed. And a bottle fed baby can bond when fed a bottle. That is completely true.

But at the same time, the bond between a BF baby and mom is different to anything else. That is not to say it is better or stronger. Just different and special in its own way.

Just like you would rather not be made to feel that you won't bond with your baby because you FF, a BF mom doesn't want to be made to feel that the bond they feel isn't special. It is impossible to describe or understand this bond unless you have been there. We all have different things that make us feel close to our babies in different ways.

So, let's just accept that both FF and BF babies bond well to their mommies! The bond is different, but both are strong all the same.
Not going to argue about it.
But to make a comment like that I assume that you personally have one child that you have BF and one child that you have FF. You are therefore able to compare your bond between your two children.

If that is not the case, then I fail to see how you can you make such a ridiculous comment!!
Have you breastfed and formula fed? To know about the breastfeeding bond, you have to have breastfed.

I don't think you need to have formula fed to understand the bond you get from that, you can the same bond giving other foods - solids, juice and anything other than breastmilk direct from source.


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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:09 PM   #45
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I am sorry you had such trouble. That isn't very fair to you. No one should put off bringing you formula in an attempt to get you to try to BF. That is cruel to the baby and to you.


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However what I really resent when people compare BF to FF, is when they make comments regarding the bonding between you and your baby. Whether a baby is bottle feed or breast feed they will gaze up into your eyes. I have never had any issues bonding with my babies & I find comments that suggest that FF feed babies do not bond with their mothers very upsetting.

Ok, rant over
But! I don't think these bonding comments are meant to imply that FF babies don't bond with their parents. They do. There is no denying that. There is more to bonding than how a baby is fed. And a bottle fed baby can bond when fed a bottle. That is completely true.

But at the same time, the bond between a BF baby and mom is different to anything else. That is not to say it is better or stronger. Just different and special in its own way.

Just like you would rather not be made to feel that you won't bond with your baby because you FF, a BF mom doesn't want to be made to feel that the bond they feel isn't special. It is impossible to describe or understand this bond unless you have been there. We all have different things that make us feel close to our babies in different ways.

So, let's just accept that both FF and BF babies bond well to their mommies! The bond is different, but both are strong all the same.
Not going to argue about it.
But to make a comment like that I assume that you personally have one child that you have BF and one child that you have FF. You are therefore able to compare your bond between your two children.

If that is not the case, then I fail to see how you can you make such a ridiculous comment!!
Have you breastfed and formula fed?
I have formula feed 2 healthly, well balanced & very happy little children.


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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:11 PM   #46
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I have formula feed 2 healthly, well balanced & very happy little children.
Have you ever breastfed?


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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:12 PM   #47
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Not going to argue about it!
Then please don't. Before this thread becomes something it wasn't intended to be and before the mods get involved.

Just move on.

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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:14 PM   #48
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I am sorry you had such trouble. That isn't very fair to you. No one should put off bringing you formula in an attempt to get you to try to BF. That is cruel to the baby and to you.


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Originally Posted by Mum22GTTC View Post
However what I really resent when people compare BF to FF, is when they make comments regarding the bonding between you and your baby. Whether a baby is bottle feed or breast feed they will gaze up into your eyes. I have never had any issues bonding with my babies & I find comments that suggest that FF feed babies do not bond with their mothers very upsetting.

Ok, rant over
But! I don't think these bonding comments are meant to imply that FF babies don't bond with their parents. They do. There is no denying that. There is more to bonding than how a baby is fed. And a bottle fed baby can bond when fed a bottle. That is completely true.

But at the same time, the bond between a BF baby and mom is different to anything else. That is not to say it is better or stronger. Just different and special in its own way.

Just like you would rather not be made to feel that you won't bond with your baby because you FF, a BF mom doesn't want to be made to feel that the bond they feel isn't special. It is impossible to describe or understand this bond unless you have been there. We all have different things that make us feel close to our babies in different ways.

So, let's just accept that both FF and BF babies bond well to their mommies! The bond is different, but both are strong all the same.
Not going to argue about it.
But to make a comment like that I assume that you personally have one child that you have BF and one child that you have FF. You are therefore able to compare your bond between your two children.

If that is not the case, then I fail to see how you can you make such a ridiculous comment!!
Have you breastfed and formula fed?
I have formula feed 2 healthly, well balanced & very happy little children.

Sorry, but I fail to see how you KNOW that the bond is any different. You cannot possible KNOW you simply want to BELIEVE!

As you can see this is something I feel passionately about.

I feel, in fact I KNOW that mothers who FF are made to feel 'bad' (for want of a better word) - as if we are sub-standard mothers who do not share that special connection if they choose to FF - as you and tigerlady have just proven!


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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:17 PM   #49
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Okay... really... enough is enough.

MOVE ON.

No one meant to make anyone else feel bad. Full stop.


 
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Old Mar 1st, 2010, 15:18 PM   #50
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I have formula feed 2 healthly, well balanced & very happy little children.

Sorry, but I fail to see how you KNOW that the bond is any different. You cannot possible KNOW you simply want to BELIEVE!

As you can see this is something I feel passionately about.

I feel, in fact I KNOW that mothers who FF are made to feel 'bad' (for want of a better word) - as if we are sub-standard mothers who do not share that special connection if they choose to FF - as you and tigerlady have just proven!
I have no problem with women chosing to formula feed, but it should be an informed choice - that is every womans right.

This is about chosing how to feed. I don't think it is fair to women to withold information.

I believe there is a special bond to be gained by breastfeeding. I bottlefed and I breastfed. Personally, I felt an incredible bond, giving him food I created. Not everyone wants that, I don't know if everyone gets it. I'm not going to lie about it though.


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