Horses & Babies - Page 3

Snowball · Jul 3rd, 2009, 16:08 PM

I don't think it's extreme to not want to go near a horse whilst pregnant. Yes you can fall over in the park/trip down the stairs etc but yards are a little more dangerous than your average place.

I didn't lose our baby at 21 weeks because I was riding or even near a horse. I slipped whilst pushing a wheelbarrow and fell flat on my stomach. So although I wasn't dealing directly with a horse I was very much so in the enviroment. If someone would have said to me beforehand that emptying a load of poo on the muckheap would be dangerous I'd have laughed in their face. It certainly put a lot into perspective for me and I'm so glad I didn't own a horse at the time (I'd looked into it) because I am doubtful I'll ever want to go back near one again. 12 years of experience and studying thrown away because of the mental affects of an accident no one could have predicted.

I still say it's up to the individual but I don't ever agree now that completely taking a back seat is the wrong decision and I'd happily sit on the side of 'it's not worth the risk'. I appreciate it's difficult for horse owners, it's impossible to not have to care for your horse on a daily basis and some people do everything and ride until they give birth but as I said before, there's always another side to it.

Duffy · Jul 3rd, 2009, 16:33 PM

You posted I responded, rather its extreme or not its "my choice" to not go near a horse, to me thats not worth risking losing my baby.

What you do is your business don't take my comment out of text.

lisa35 · Jul 4th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Not read other replys

It's totally up to you. I rode right up to 7 months until i could no longer get my leg over with my first two pregnancys, the horses were solid as rock...never put a foot wrong and my first two babies both was strong and did everything early compared to other babys and i always put this down to horse riding!

With the mare i have now i was riding her until the day i found out i were pgt once i found out i stopped, it's purely not worth the risk as she can be unpredictable not always just sometimes and i'm not going to take that risk.

I have a 15 yr old girl who comes and schools her once a week for me and she is doing so well with her...i often think about getting on her even just for a walk round but i'm too scared to, i also lunge her as often as i can as she dosen't pull in the slightest she's not the youngest of mares been 16 but by god she acts like a 2 yr old most of times

alibaba24 · Jul 4th, 2009, 07:03 AM

I think theres a way of replying that doesnt make you sound rude and abrupt when my post was completly friendly not to worry though, to snowball its awful what happened to you and it was an accident that could have happened anywhere you can slip on a wet pavement its just a shame it happened at a yard, and dont blame you for not wanting to be at a yard again but even just day to day living you can have accidents like slipping or falling You must have been devastated and im sorry for what happened to you no one deserves it.

thanks for all the opinions its intersesting to read im lucky with the fact my yard offers full livery and iv got friends at the yard willing to help too until baby arrives and i think then ill be gratful to have my mare as means of escape to get some sanity back!!lol alot of the mw at epu agree its a good thing to have some sort of hobby once your little one arrives it helps with things like post natal depression.

xxx

xxx

anothersquish · Jul 4th, 2009, 07:28 AM

Lets not start judging other people for thier choices to ride/not to ride or to be around horses. For many horse owners they have no choice but to continue to care for thier horses on a day to day basis unless they were to sell them. Personally I wont stop caring for my horses, its a measured risk but I cant afford to pay someone else to look after them and I will not sell them (some are too old/have old injuries and would have to be put to sleep) so therefore I continue to care for them as safely as possible. If another person chooses to sell thier horse/s or stop helping out at riding schools etc that is thier individual desicion because they, personally, have decided that being anywhere near a horse is too much risk. Obviously neither of these viewpoints can be forced on another!
The same goes for riding, my ridden mare is 100% safe, I backed and schooled her myself and have owned her for 11 years and so on and so forth, however I will not ride her, even in the paddock. Not that there is any doubt that she is safe but because she MIGHT trip..there is a possiblity something could go wrong that I have decided its too much of a risk to take. Even though I strongly feel I wont sit on a horse again until this baby is born I am not going to judge those who decide to do so. If they deem the risk is minimal enough to be worth riding that is thier own individual choice and noone can argue with it.
What one person finds a big risk another finds a few small one, not wise to start having a go at one another just because of personal choices.

Snowball · Jul 4th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Sorry alibaba I'm not picking on you but I just wanted to point out why I think Duffy may have found your post a little abrupt. I know on forums it's not like everyday talking as there's no tone so sometimes we can put something and people will read it another way iykwim?

Originally you posted, asking for people's opinions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alibaba24

Hi im posting this to get as many opinions as i can, I know maybe not many people will know about horses on here but its worth a shot! I own my own horse who i love dearly shes kept at stables on D.I.Y Livery which as you can guess means i go up daily and make sure her stables cleaned fed,shes excercised etc.

iv recently found out im pregnant which im over the moon with but i dont want to lose my horse either, Iv heard of women who ride right through there pregnancy and some who dont. I was planning on not riding until 2nd tri and then only doing some gentle work. But at the same time im thinking of just not riding at all(to be safe) shes only young so im doing alot of lunging with her just now( basically me on foot her working on a long line round me in a circle) I also have a friend who is going to ride her from october onwards whilst her horse is laid off. so i dont have to worry too much about keeping her fit. Its more other things like i cant quite imagine being able to groom her with a big bump in the way!! so iv condsidered putting her on full livery (paying someone else to do what i cant) when im too big to take care of her myself shes so placid and gentle i know id be fine doing the very basics feeding etc.

Im also worried though about when bubz arrives

will i still have time for her i only spend an hour to two hours a day normally unless im riding and have a great family to are willing to babysit and daddy of course! i know i wont want to leave my baby but i do love having a hobby. I sound mad dont i everyone iv spoke to says i should try and keep up my hobby yeah it will be difficullt when pregnant but i should get into a routine when baby arrives when theres a will theres a way!

what a long post

opinions welcome

Duffy replied that she wouldn't risk her baby by going near one and you replied, I think I've highlighted the right bit that has been seen as a little abrupt:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alibaba24

Hi to duffy, sorry you are right accidents do happen "i would never consider being near a horse while pregnant" i think thats a bit extreme considering you can have an accident anywhere you could be walking in the park and a big dog could come and jump on your stomach, or you could innocently bang into something. I dont think me going to see my horse is me willing to lose my unborn child i think with that kind of opinion why even go out the door? thanks for your opinion all the same though x

Then you went onto say:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alibaba24

Hiya again iv personally decided not to ride but i did speak to a doc about it on my last pregnancy and they said 2nd tri would be ok but 1st is always the old "danger period" and with 3rd tri it cause baby is heavier theres more pulling etc i think its totally up to the indivdual and wouldnt pass judgement on people who do or do not ride while pregnant i know a women who rode up to 8 months without a prob!! ... and thanks for saying about niquita this is my 1st coloured horse people didnt like her cause she has one blue eye but i think shes goreous

In a way you can see why people who have the opinion of not going near horses would kind of see that you asked for everyones opinion but singled out an anti equine comment and called it extreme? It's probably just wording and I don't think for one second that you meant it nasty but it's just a way it can be misconstrued.

I'm not the only person on here who's lost a baby around the equine enviroment and maybe it was no more likely to happen there than in the middle of a park but there's always going to be a wide range of opinions on it wether they seem extreme or not and no one is judging you on if you decide to ride or not. As you said, it's totally up to the individual. If we all had the same opinion the world would be a boring place

alibaba24 · Jul 4th, 2009, 16:03 PM

yes and i thanked everyone for there opinons including duffys so ill thank everyone again i read all the replies and i know what im going to do i did have a rough idea before but i though it would be good to see what folk have to say its also nice to see theres a few horse owners on here too that understand the difficult postion. I wasnt trying to single duffy out but i felt the way the reply read was making out going near a horse means losing your baby however it was intended im happy for all the opinions that people have left and i dont expect everyone to agree with being near a horse but unfortunatly i cant avoid even being near one but ill be doing my best to be as safe as i can be in all situations not just at my yard x

Snowball · Jul 4th, 2009, 18:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alibaba24

yes and i thanked everyone for there opinons including duffys so ill thank everyone again i read all the replies and i know what im going to do i did have a rough idea before but i though it would be good to see what folk have to say its also nice to see theres a few horse owners on here too that understand the difficult postion. I wasnt trying to single duffy out but i felt the way the reply read was making out going near a horse means losing your baby however it was intended im happy for all the opinions that people have left and i dont expect everyone to agree with being near a horse but unfortunatly i cant avoid even being near one but ill be doing my best to be as safe as i can be in all situations not just at my yard x

It's obvious if you own a horse you can't avoid the situations. I think it's just a lack of tone forum issue I'm sure as I knew where Duffy was coming from and I don't think she was thinking that you going near your horse was risking your baby's life she was just saying how she personally felt about her baby.

I'm going to stop posting on this thread now because I feel a little upset by the undermining that my baby could have died anywhere and it wasn't a case of where I was. Probably true but he didn't, he died by me slipping on a ramp on a horse yard. No offence to you and no hard feelings, I was just giving my opinion same as everyone else

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Duffy · Jul 4th, 2009, 19:45 PM

Snowball hey sweetie you read me like a crystal-ball that is what I mean "me personally" just speaking for myself, no judgements to anyone who does.

Taking my own bow out this thread.

Pyrrhic · Jul 5th, 2009, 04:46 AM

To people who say they trust their horses, it's nothing to do with trust. I trusted mine, in fact I was dismounting when the accident happened as the horse spooked at something.

ali, I think you've been quite insensitive in some of your posts, especially considering there are people here who have lost babies through riding, and seem to be more defensive than interested in other's opinions, so good luck to you if you do ride.

Jul 3rd, 2009, 16:08 PM	#21
Snowball Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,211	I don't think it's extreme to not want to go near a horse whilst pregnant. Yes you can fall over in the park/trip down the stairs etc but yards are a little more dangerous than your average place. I didn't lose our baby at 21 weeks because I was riding or even near a horse. I slipped whilst pushing a wheelbarrow and fell flat on my stomach. So although I wasn't dealing directly with a horse I was very much so in the enviroment. If someone would have said to me beforehand that emptying a load of poo on the muckheap would be dangerous I'd have laughed in their face. It certainly put a lot into perspective for me and I'm so glad I didn't own a horse at the time (I'd looked into it) because I am doubtful I'll ever want to go back near one again. 12 years of experience and studying thrown away because of the mental affects of an accident no one could have predicted. I still say it's up to the individual but I don't ever agree now that completely taking a back seat is the wrong decision and I'd happily sit on the side of 'it's not worth the risk'. I appreciate it's difficult for horse owners, it's impossible to not have to care for your horse on a daily basis and some people do everything and ride until they give birth but as I said before, there's always another side to it.

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Jul 3rd, 2009, 16:33 PM	#22
Duffy Trying to conceive (TTC) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,964	You posted I responded, rather its extreme or not its "my choice" to not go near a horse, to me thats not worth risking losing my baby. What you do is your business don't take my comment out of text.

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Jul 4th, 2009, 04:37 AM	#23
lisa35 Other Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: N yorkshire Posts: 1,233	Not read other replys It's totally up to you. I rode right up to 7 months until i could no longer get my leg over with my first two pregnancys, the horses were solid as rock...never put a foot wrong and my first two babies both was strong and did everything early compared to other babys and i always put this down to horse riding! With the mare i have now i was riding her until the day i found out i were pgt once i found out i stopped, it's purely not worth the risk as she can be unpredictable not always just sometimes and i'm not going to take that risk. I have a 15 yr old girl who comes and schools her once a week for me and she is doing so well with her...i often think about getting on her even just for a walk round but i'm too scared to, i also lunge her as often as i can as she dosen't pull in the slightest she's not the youngest of mares been 16 but by god she acts like a 2 yr old most of times

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Jul 4th, 2009, 07:03 AM	#24
alibaba24 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: edinburgh Posts: 3,489	I think theres a way of replying that doesnt make you sound rude and abrupt when my post was completly friendly not to worry though, to snowball its awful what happened to you and it was an accident that could have happened anywhere you can slip on a wet pavement its just a shame it happened at a yard, and dont blame you for not wanting to be at a yard again but even just day to day living you can have accidents like slipping or falling You must have been devastated and im sorry for what happened to you no one deserves it. thanks for all the opinions its intersesting to read im lucky with the fact my yard offers full livery and iv got friends at the yard willing to help too until baby arrives and i think then ill be gratful to have my mare as means of escape to get some sanity back!!lol alot of the mw at epu agree its a good thing to have some sort of hobby once your little one arrives it helps with things like post natal depression. xxx xxx

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Jul 4th, 2009, 07:28 AM	#25
anothersquish Mum (Mom) Inactive Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,415	Lets not start judging other people for thier choices to ride/not to ride or to be around horses. For many horse owners they have no choice but to continue to care for thier horses on a day to day basis unless they were to sell them. Personally I wont stop caring for my horses, its a measured risk but I cant afford to pay someone else to look after them and I will not sell them (some are too old/have old injuries and would have to be put to sleep) so therefore I continue to care for them as safely as possible. If another person chooses to sell thier horse/s or stop helping out at riding schools etc that is thier individual desicion because they, personally, have decided that being anywhere near a horse is too much risk. Obviously neither of these viewpoints can be forced on another! The same goes for riding, my ridden mare is 100% safe, I backed and schooled her myself and have owned her for 11 years and so on and so forth, however I will not ride her, even in the paddock. Not that there is any doubt that she is safe but because she MIGHT trip..there is a possiblity something could go wrong that I have decided its too much of a risk to take. Even though I strongly feel I wont sit on a horse again until this baby is born I am not going to judge those who decide to do so. If they deem the risk is minimal enough to be worth riding that is thier own individual choice and noone can argue with it. What one person finds a big risk another finds a few small one, not wise to start having a go at one another just because of personal choices.

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Jul 4th, 2009, 16:03 PM	#27
alibaba24 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: edinburgh Posts: 3,489	yes and i thanked everyone for there opinons including duffys so ill thank everyone again i read all the replies and i know what im going to do i did have a rough idea before but i though it would be good to see what folk have to say its also nice to see theres a few horse owners on here too that understand the difficult postion. I wasnt trying to single duffy out but i felt the way the reply read was making out going near a horse means losing your baby however it was intended im happy for all the opinions that people have left and i dont expect everyone to agree with being near a horse but unfortunatly i cant avoid even being near one but ill be doing my best to be as safe as i can be in all situations not just at my yard x

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Jul 4th, 2009, 19:45 PM	#29
Duffy Trying to conceive (TTC) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,964	Snowball hey sweetie you read me like a crystal-ball that is what I mean "me personally" just speaking for myself, no judgements to anyone who does. Taking my own bow out this thread.

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Jul 5th, 2009, 04:46 AM	#30
Pyrrhic Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,567	To people who say they trust their horses, it's nothing to do with trust. I trusted mine, in fact I was dismounting when the accident happened as the horse spooked at something. ali, I think you've been quite insensitive in some of your posts, especially considering there are people here who have lost babies through riding, and seem to be more defensive than interested in other's opinions, so good luck to you if you do ride.

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