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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 10:00 AM   #11
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I agree with Beanie also ...

Unless violence or abuse of some kind is present ... If he messed my kid around then there would be a stop to it too or hurt them in any way ^^^ like Laylas kiddies Dad (blimey Layla) then he'd get told to f off!
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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 10:03 AM   #12
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i wanted to, sooooooooooooo much, Jase hates him with a passion, but i had to do what the kids wanted at teh end of the day, i hated it at first when they went to see him, but now its ok, despite what i think of him and what he did in the past, hes made a real effort with them and always helps out with clothes, swimming and karate costs.

But the best thing is, they see Jase as there dad and call him dad, they have his last name, they call nigel 'nigel dad' and thats the price he has paid for being such an arse.

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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 10:14 AM   #13
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Sorry I wasn't blimey at your end decision just over all - although I think you have mentioned it before. What an ass! I'm guessing once kids are here sometimes like you did you have to bite your lip and do what the kids will see right rather than you. Can't have been easy for you in that situation though. x
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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 10:35 AM   #14
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yeah, its so hard knowing what the right/best thing to do for them, but i had to think long term.

as horrible as it sounds, id rather they face it if he lets them down, then they will know its him, rather than then growing up resenting me for never letting them see him, just in case he upsets them, does that make sense? lol its hard to explain

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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 10:55 AM   #15
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Old Aug 20th, 2007, 15:27 PM   #16
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Cheers for the replies girls.
The father, like I said in a post waaaay back, has been threatenin court action.
He will stop at nothing to make it known that he is the father, so Imi, even if I dont put him down on the birth certificate, he will happily pay to take me to court for a DNA test if I start denying him as the dad!

I thought about that one a while back, even had a solicitor talk me through what can and cant be done- they said they dont advise that I leave him out of the birth certificate simply because he can take me to court for a DNA test and if things get too messy & I start refusing to have any tests, I can be forced to give one. When it's proven he is the babies dad, he can then go on to apply for something called a parental responsibility order which gives him the same rights that I would have, and then once he has got that, he could attempt (though he wouldnt get it) to apply for full custody!

Tell me, would it really be worth leaving him off the birth certificate? he wants a child that bad (and now hes got one on the way) that he'd do ANYTHING.

Trust me, I wish I could say that he's coming no where near Nicky when he's born, out of sheer spite for what's going on between us now, but in fear of being dragged through court and him actually winning any case that he applies for, I dont know if i'd be strong enough to do it.

Has Maddies father ever attempted to threaten you with anything like this? dont tell me he just accepted everything you said and just walked away freely? believe me, I wish that would be the case for me.. Oh and Tilly, my father put his first born in a drawer lol, they were that poor that he stuck two chairs together, placed a drawer on them with a load of bedding in it, and put baby in it lol.

Right first off they CANNOT Force you to have a DNA a court order is only granted if it is thought it is in the CHILDS best interests.
http://www.bma.org.uk/ap.nsf/Content...est#References

And yes Sperm Doner DID walk away ... he tried to come back he would have an awful job proving he is anything to do with maddie.
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Old Aug 21st, 2007, 17:21 PM   #17
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Im sorry, but I also agree with Beanie. I dont know your story with you ex, but if he is absuive etc then fair enough, but I have seen the other side of the coin. My hubby has a son (whos 7) and he is constantly threatened with never seeing him again if the ex doesnt get her own way. My DH pays her plenty and has never missed a payment, he has never once let his son down and it is torture to see the man I love cry his heart out when she swears he will never see his son again.
Sorry I have ranted on, and it is probably irrelevant, but it saddens me to think that so many men are not able to see their own children as some woman decides to play god. No wonder they dress up like spider man and scale the houses of parliment etc!!!!
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I haven't stopped him but i would.

I have my reasons!

He WALKED AWAY leaving me 22wks PG in a place i'd never heard of and left me to fend for myself i was SCREWED both finacially AND mentally.

I had NOTHING! ... i was lucky i had not long met vicky and she took me in and helped me sort myself out, through one thing and another i couldn't do anything else but sit and wait for something to come good.

Would i BOLLOCKS let that ******* come anywhere near, if he did i'd fucking kill him.

Madeleine has a loving family surrounding her and a father who dotes on her and would lay down his life to keep her safe and happy.

I've never heard off that twat since, but i DARE him to come to me and try lay claim to my daughter.

sorry for the rant but im no "one of those mothers that play god" not having a go Hels but i had to put my point across, i hope i haven't offended you, it wasn't ment to but i feel i have to say its not always that simple.

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I dont think I made my point very well there. Sorry.

Imi, I know your story and you know mine, and I know everyone has different circumstances.

I really feel for men who want to be a good father, will be there come rain or shine and because the woman says no, then no it is!! That to me is bollocks. No one should have the right to make things difficult and use a child like that.
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