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MrTashaAndBum · Jun 8th, 2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rae05

I just think it is cleaner, you're less likely to get STD's if you are circumcized, you're also less likely to get urinary tract infections. Its just something I feel necessary for the over-all health of my baby, both now and later in life.

That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read. I have a forskin and have rarely caught any infections or stds, much less than any woman I know. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by carmen

A man who hasn t got foreskin, doesn t go to the toilet and get a little bit of urine, behind i know that sounds disgusting but its true , foreskin traps alot.

Shake, pull back and wipe ladies - followed by a flush and wash! It's rocket science I know but a 2 year old boy can pick it up (lil bro in law), so I'm sure most of the USA (with its high c/cism rate) could learn it too... although it is the go-faster nation so they might need non-friction paper... hmmm - a whole new market for a product right there!

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Originally Posted by doumauk

I just wanted to have my say so people dont think bad of me for saying I will be having my son circumsised. My son will be circumsised purely for religious reasons. It is nothing to do with cleanliness or catching Stds because as responsible parents it is our job to teach them about washing properly and about safe sex when the time comes. As for it being cruel and painful, that would only be if you left it until the child grows up and is fully aware of what is happening to him which is what happened to my husband when he was 7. Therefore my son will be circumsised as soon as he is well enough and a doctor agrees he is well enough which could be at birth or a few months old. I hope this doesnt make me appear any less of a good mother purely for choosing to do it.

Thats probably the most sensible answer I've read in this thread (apart from mine obviously but I don't think I can count mine, can I? No, TnB said no so... pfft). Well done, Doumauk.

Anyway, I'd write more but I need a pee... pull, wipe, flush and wash... could we make it a song, ladies?? (An accomanying YouTube video not needed!)

Uvlollypop · Jun 8th, 2008, 11:31 AM

another point if u.s health insurance companies wont pay out for circumcision because its seen as cosmetic, the hiv debate holds no weight seeing as it would save them money in the long run medicating people that that arnt cut when they catch hiv? if thats such a great back up plan in the war against hiv??

genkigemini · Jun 8th, 2008, 11:42 AM

I am honestly not sure why it is so common in the US. To be quite honest, I didn't even know a lot of guys weren't until I was an adult. That is just how it is and I was rasied Christian, not Jewish.

While I do not think it is cruel, I understand why parents would not do it.

One thing... I really don't see why this topic got all intense. Did I miss the boat? Is this topic really that sensitive?

I am assuming that most of us have made our decisions based on our upbringing, right? If it doesn't really hurt anything either way as far as health goes, does it really merit getting all mad? (I am just curious and definitely not trying to start anything. I just had no idea this was such a sensitive subject.)

nikky0907 · Jun 8th, 2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Uvlollypop

i know jewish people do it and theres a big jew community in the us?

It isn't because of that.I am for example an episcopalian.
Male circumcision in US has nothing to do with religion in most cases.
I honestly can't tell you why it's extremly common here but it is.And nobody is suffering,everyone is fine,sex lives are not endangered.

Wobbles · Jun 8th, 2008, 12:54 PM

Well we all figured out some do some don't some agree some don't some do it because of x reason some do it because of another x reason then some do it because its the norm for religion & culture etc etc etc

Who now wants a lolly pop

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(No licking UVlolly on the screen please I meant a sugar one) lol

genkigemini · Jun 8th, 2008, 16:28 PM

polo_princess · Jun 8th, 2008, 16:53 PM

I am NOT licking UV!!

(wipes the screen)

mugzy · Jun 8th, 2008, 18:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Uvlollypop

ive never heard anything more ridiculous

It may seem ridiculous to you, but it's a view shared by the world health organisation.

From the WHO site:

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Based on the evidence presented, which was considered to be compelling, experts attending the consultation recommended that male circumcision now be recognized as an additional important intervention to reduce the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men. The international consultation, which was held from 6-8 March 2007 in Montreux, Switzerland, was attended by participants representing a wide range of stakeholders, including governments, civil society, researchers, human rights and women's health advocates, young people, funding agencies and implementing partners.

you can read the full recommendations here: http://www.who.int/hiv/mediacentre/news68/en/index.html

As for your question about US health companies... who knows why they do anything. It could be that they know that people in the US will have their sons circumcised whether it's covered by health insurance or not. I'm not too familiar with health insurance laws in the US, but I know that many private health insurance companies worldwide do not cover anything HIV related, that could have something to do with it. It could also have something to do with this from the National Institute of health:

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The findings from the African studies may have less impact on the epidemic in the United States for several reasons. In the United States, most men have been circumcised. Also, there is a lower prevalence of HIV. Moreover, most infections among men in the United States are in men who have sex with men, for whom the amount of benefit provided by circumcision is unknown. Nonetheless, the overall findings of the African studies are likely to be broadly relevant regardless of geographic location: a man at sexual risk who is uncircumcised is more likely than a man who is circumcised to become infected with HIV. Still, circumcision is only part of a broader HIV prevention strategy that includes limiting the number of sexual partners and using condoms during intercourse.

You can read the full article here: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsr...6/AMC12_06.htm

Uvlollypop · Jun 8th, 2008, 19:29 PM

mmmm lolly pop!!! no polo you sharnt be licking me!

Mummy2Many · Jun 8th, 2008, 19:42 PM

For whatever reasons, it is something that is much more common in the States/Canada than it is over here. Cultural differences, I guess. I think it's unnecessary, and I never even considered or discussed it when I was expecting either of my boys.

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