Uvlollypop

oh dear its turning into a debate again!

tinkerbelll

circumcised/not circumcised
breastfeed/bottle feed
soother/no soother
cot/moses basket
stay at home mum/working mum

people are going to bring up THEIR babies however they feel is best for THEIR child and shouldn't have to explain themselves - sorry but its true!

nikky0907

I'm sorry,I know it's turning into a debate but I had to reply to this.

Circumsision of girls means that they take a piece of broken glass or a dirty razor and cut out their CLITORIS and generally mutilate their entire vaginal area so that they would never have an orgasm since it is only a privilage for a man.
It's is used in many middle east cultures where a woman is highly degrated.

Male circusision doesn't even fall into the same category as this.
When a man has it done,nothing is different for him except that it's even easier for him,THIS disgusting thing is not called femal circumsision,it's called mutilation and a big percentage of women die during the procedure.

Please don't even compare the two.

kookie

agree totaly well said.

carmen

No comparison , like Nicky said.

disfiguration is just the total wrong word, as it doesnt make someone penis look disfigured.

Angelmouse

Absolutely and if you read what I've written you will see that I would countenance neither. What I'm interested in is that some parents would agree to inflict pain on thier child for no very good reason and I wonder why this would be?

Also ear piercing holes never really close up without leaving a mark, as for a boy not getting his foreskin back, that is exactly why I would never remove that choice from my son. Again y'know, it's not said derogitarily ( if that's even a word ) and I'm not expecting to convince people not to do it. I'm simply trying to understand why a person would make this choice.

Jayne

Like I said, what I originally posted was my opinion and in my opinion, they're exactly the same. Cutting off a girls clitoris is just as barbaric as taking away a boys foreskin. It doesn't matter HOW it's performed, that's not the point.

Again, that's a matter of opinion. I DO think that circ'd men look disfigured without an erection, but that's just me.

There are a few video's on youtube showing babies being circ'd. I'm not going to post them here but if you watch any of them and don't get upset, then you're a harder person than me.

Finally, did you know that not ONE medical association in the world recommends circumcision? Interesting.........

Anyway, that's my say on the matter. It's all down to personal choice I guess.

doumauk

Very well said, I couldnt agree more. I dont think people circumcise their sons just to inflict pain. I mean come on whos going to do that.

nikky0907

I don't mean to start an argument really but I think thousands of women who had this MUTILATION of their vaignal area,who had it done without anaesthetics,on a filthy rock while they screamed and their mother held them down,fainted from shock several times bled so much,couldn't sleep,walk or do anything for months and a HUGE number of them dies from pain and bleeding would agree with you.
It's NOT circumcision,it's MUTILATION.

And it makes me sick to my stomac just to think about it.

A circumsized male does not go through any of that,and it does not reduce his sexual pleasure.He pretty much lives his life like a man who isn't circumsized.

Jayne

But that's just your opinion. If you ask all the mothers of the girls that have it done, it's female circumcision. Different cultures, different opinions.

The way you feel about female circumcision is the same way I feel about male and female circumcision. And actually, being circumcised DOES reduce male sexual pleasure.

A brief factsheet on circumcision:

http://www.ncfm.org/circumcisionfactsheet.htm