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Margerle · Mar 18th, 2008, 17:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Holldoll

I'm having a natural birth, and I don't think that it makes me any better than anyone that chooses not to. What I don't like is people making an uninformed choice.

America has a totally different view on giving birth than the rest of the world. We have a the 2nd highest newborn mortality rate and the highest rate of c-sections. There is a correlation between the two. The other problem is that drugs in OB have never been carefully studied. If you look throughout history and the drugs they have used, you will see that it's not until thousands of babies are born with defects that they decide to discontinue the use of drugs. Also, they are suspecting that their might be a correlation between the use of epidurals and the rising incidence of ADD.

Whatever birth you plan on having, I highly recommend you watch the movie, The Business of Being Born. And do your research. People spend more time researching the stroller they are going to buy than they do the birth they are going to have and the effects on both the mother and the child.

Be informed, that's what bothers me. Doctors don't know everything.

Yes. And I don't think we're snobs for having this perspective.

beanie · Mar 18th, 2008, 17:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holldoll

I'm having a natural birth, and I don't think that it makes me any better than anyone that chooses not to. What I don't like is people making an uninformed choice.

America has a totally different view on giving birth than the rest of the world. We have a the 2nd highest newborn mortality rate and the highest rate of c-sections. There is a correlation between the two. The other problem is that drugs in OB have never been carefully studied. If you look throughout history and the drugs they have used, you will see that it's not until thousands of babies are born with defects that they decide to discontinue the use of drugs. Also, they are suspecting that their might be a correlation between the use of epidurals and the rising incidence of ADD.

Whatever birth you plan on having, I highly recommend you watch the movie, The Business of Being Born. And do your research. People spend more time researching the stroller they are going to buy than they do the birth they are going to have and the effects on both the mother and the child.

Be informed, that's what bothers me. Doctors don't know everything.

I agree with this, I have had two very different births, one with all the drugs and one with none and whilst I don't feel like I am a better mum to Cally then I am to Serenn I really wish I had read more about the options as that would have helped me prepare more mentally for the birth. I am a pretty "hippy mum" but I wouldn't have changed the way I gave birth to Seren as I did what I needed to get her here, I would have just liked to have known more about the side effects etc as it really hit me hard afterwards.

As for future births who knows what type I will have, depends on the situation at the time.

anita665 · Mar 18th, 2008, 18:24 PM

I agree it's down to personal choice but I want to do it as naturally as possible because I don't want to be in hospital for ages recovering from a c-section and the pain that goes with it and I hate the idea of an epidural because I'm freaked out by a needle going into my spine - things aren't meant to be poked in there!! I also don't want anything that will make me or the baby tired.

nikky0907 · Mar 18th, 2008, 18:42 PM

I absoulutely agree with you!

It is a very sexist thing to believe that all women must endure labor and with that a myth was created that it is magical and wonderful.
As you said,holding your baby in your arms is wonderful,it doesn't matter how you got there.

I am all for women choosing how they want to give birth to THEIR children.
I chose natural but only because I don't won't to be cut open,but I definitely want all the drugs that exist...

I notice how some women take greater pride when they give birth naturally without pain killers and look down on mothers who give birth by c-section.
This is the 21st century and you have every right to choose and if you want an easier birth and the pain free one you can!Simple as that.In the end of the day we are all mothers and real women.
I for once belive that a woman doesn't have to give birth at all if she chooses it,it doesn't make her any less better.

Thank you for this thread...

Moraine · Mar 18th, 2008, 19:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tinytoes

I get quite wound up by the natural "hippy" mums who claim child birth is wonderful and magical. sorry but I dont get it. Receiving a baby in your arms is the magic as far as I can see. The rest is just a way to get it there.

so there, thats my tuesday rant...phew!

But if you opt to have a C section, you won't receive the baby in your arms for a while. At least that's what I was told.

I am opting for natural for a few reasons. And I am far from a hippy. I do not want surgery, I would rather go through some pain than go through major surgery with no pain. And I do not want an epidural because my sister had one and she still has back pain because of it a year later.

I do not look down on anyone for their choice of birth, and I would hope no one would look down on me for mine, such as calling me a hippy mum.

coccyx · Mar 18th, 2008, 20:25 PM

Yes you do or rather I held my daughters a few mins after being delivered by a c section and it is not painfree!!!!

Hope you get the delivery you hope for

nikky0907 · Mar 18th, 2008, 20:42 PM

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But if you opt to have a C section, you won't receive the baby in your arms for a while. At least that's what I was told.

I am opting for natural for a few reasons. And I am far from a hippy. I do not want surgery, I would rather go through some pain than go through major surgery with no pain. And I do not want an epidural because my sister had one and she still has back pain because of it a year later.

I do not look down on anyone for their choice of birth, and I would hope no one would look down on me for mine, such as calling me a hippy mum.

I don't think she meant to call everyone who has had a natural delivery a hippy mom.
What she meant by hippy moms are the women who claim that only a natural birth is right and only that makes you a mother and a true woman,and the ones that say that a women's body is supposed to go through that and be ''united with nature''.

A woman's body is structured in a way that it goes through a pregnancy and delivery but today a woman can choose for a delivery that she finds appealing to her.

I personally don't find labor pains wonderful and nobody has to go through them if they don't want to...

maybebaby · Mar 18th, 2008, 20:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holldoll

I'm having a natural birth, and I don't think that it makes me any better than anyone that chooses not to. What I don't like is people making an uninformed choice.

America has a totally different view on giving birth than the rest of the world. We have a the 2nd highest newborn mortality rate and the highest rate of c-sections. There is a correlation between the two. The other problem is that drugs in OB have never been carefully studied. If you look throughout history and the drugs they have used, you will see that it's not until thousands of babies are born with defects that they decide to discontinue the use of drugs. Also, they are suspecting that their might be a correlation between the use of epidurals and the rising incidence of ADD.

Whatever birth you plan on having, I highly recommend you watch the movie, The Business of Being Born. And do your research. People spend more time researching the stroller they are going to buy than they do the birth they are going to have and the effects on both the mother and the child.

Be informed, that's what bothers me. Doctors don't know everything.

I saw that movie too - and I completely agree with your post. I absolutely think that each birth is different and whatever the mommy decides is best for her is the way it should be. I want to try for a natural birth, and have already told my OB that I want to avoid Pitocin if I can. But if something goes wrong, it is nice to know that a c-section is available.

coccyx · Mar 18th, 2008, 21:06 PM

Do ladies mean different things when they say 'a natural ' birth?? I take it to mean no pain relief etc. But in some posts seems to mean different. Does that make sense

leeanne · Mar 18th, 2008, 21:12 PM

I've had C-sections and I have no regrets nor do I feel less a woman. I never felt guilty for not being able to deliver my babies naturally. My babies came out healthy and that's all that mattered. My first might not be here if it weren't for a C-section after two days of horrendous labour and no progress.

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