Yeah she has a nunu which during the day she loves to sleep with on her face. At night she spends most of the time banging on her cot.

I knew dummy had to go - she did without after first big cry, so she can do it.

Ok I'm going to hide all the dummies from myself tonight well it is bin today, perhaps I shoudl run out and put them in the rubbish so not tempted!!!!!

Can imagine it's really hard - DD is a thumb sucker - it's her form of self-settling, I think the rage would be something to behold if she couldn't have her thumb!

Jacs - fingers crossed for the nap!

P - no grumbling for the nap, that's brilliant!!

Morning Everybody!

It's Friday, the in-laws are away and I have OH around all weekend

Well..... last night we gave Kyle his bedtime feed about 7.30pm and rather than put him down 80% sleepy we woke him up a bit more and put him in his crib. Needless to say he didn't like this BUT it only took OH doing PU/PD 3 times fo him to eventually find his thumb and hand (thank heavens for self-soothing now he's old enough) and fall asleep. He did grizzle a fair bit on and off but they were just sleep grizzles.

He then didn't wake up properly until 1am! A new personal best for our wee man He went back down after this feed awake again and didn't need to be PU/PD as he found his thumb which seems to work wonders (at the moment anyway!)

And his next wake up after this was 5.40am (!!) But, two steps forward, one step back as he has only slept for 30 mins since then (he also had lots of big naps yesterday as we were out in the car all day).

Is anybody else using the PU/PD technique?

Problem is i'm now dreading daytime naps (but always have done!) because he really doesn't like being put down for sleep awake and ends up winding himself up so much that sleep just won't come. His crib is also still in our room, i'm not sure whether or not to put him in his own room yet as he is only 11 weeks old?

OH has been a brilliant help though and has done the PU/PD the past 2 nights

Okay, 2 yawns in and just put him down for a nap, did PU/PD about 5 times but unfortunately the last time I picked him up he stopped crying instantly and fell asleep so I put him down asleep - arghghgh! I can only do this with baby steps (had to have an ear plug in too!!)

to all the new peeps!

I have also read in the BW that it takes 3 days to start to re-establish habits but can take up to 7/14 days for things to actually change? I've got 'Baby Whisperer Solves Your Problems' and it's really good, it goes into PU/PD in more detail than the Sleep Sense which is helping me!

Have you guys been emailing Dana too and getting answers?

It's so nice not to feel alone with this and sharing this group really helps me know there are others going through it too (I know almost every mum is but talking does help!!)

Is everybody putting their LO in their cot for naps? I am out and about so much during the day it's not possible except for his short one in the morning after his first feed and the cat nap before his bath.

Is anybody else also following the Baby Whisperer EASY routine?

MWAHHHH he's just started crying - been asleep 6 minutes!!!

I have failed!! He was asleep for 6 mins then woke up howling - just tried PU/PD a handful of times but his crying was just escalating and he was getting in such a state so I ended up putting him in his rocker where he just fell fast asleep in the lounge with TV on. I'm a bad mummy

PM, we kind of do the EASY routine, seems to work well for us.

Last night was good 7 till 7 with one feed at 2.30.

Polaris, today max was up at 7 and so i decided not to put him down to nap until 9.30 to see if it would increase the length.............he's still asleep nearly an hour on........so with max may be he wasnt tired enough in the morning after having such a good nights sleep. then having a short nap, like you said, kind of messes the rest of the day. think its probably trial and error to figure out their natural rhythm.

welcome bloodbinds!

tennisgirl, sounds like you've had a massive improvement since you started, are you finding you feel better on more sleep? i feel like my brains are slowing coming back to me! lol

Jacs, hope the nap went well, i've found max can stay awake longer than 2 hours in the morning until is ready for a nap too.

historygirls, you sound like me when i used to be a smoker and wanted to quit! lol

Don't worry, it is hard at first. you have to stick with what feels right for you both and still try to be as consistent as possible........................its really hard. it will happen in time, cos youre making an effort x

dont suppose you have any idea what woke him? not startle reflex or anything? i find when max wakes early after being asleep, he is usually livid because he didnt want to wake.

He was upstairs and I was down in the lounge with the monitor - all nice and quiet then huge howls! And the rocker, well he has only slept for 20 mins and is now awake but yawning again ... ho hum!

PieMistress - just like me last night! We are not ready to tackle day time naps yet - need to get nighttime sleeps sorted first.

I have resisted the urge to chuck the dummies in the rubbish and the dog going mad at the window tells me the bin men are here.

OH is on board for tonight and I'm not going to pick her up as i think it made her worse.

We do EASY to a certain extent - works better in the morning and arvo not the middle of the day - prob because naps are not long enough!

I did EASY when Evan was 3 months. I ended up getting us both in a right state, trying to stick to the routine, and abandoned it after 2 weeks!
Do you watch the BW programmes? Love that, watched one this morning!

Never mind about the nap PM, your night sounds great though!! And I bet you make progress with OH around as well.

hey everyone

hope everyone is well

and Welcome to all the new members - we're growing yeahh

me and lo are bunged up with the cold so i've not really had a chance to catch up on everyones posts - hope you all had good nights - will try to catch up reading later

didn't have a great night - lo wasn't a happy bunny - poor thing

put her down for a nap and have tried wake to sleep Polaris - fingers crossed she'll sleep for longer

happy napping all