Think i'm obviously at the 'why me?' stage of a miscarriage that i'm still waiting to happen as i'm still not bleeding yet! Am 8+3 and am awaiting the final confirmation on Thurs at my 3rd scan before they give me my options, but they are 99% certain its bad news.

In the meantime i've been looking on the web to find out why this may have happened to me. I know that sometimes there is no reason but I have come up with something that is really concerning me.

Basically for the past year I have suffered with mid-cycle bleeding which I put down to a hormone imbalance. When I went to the doctor at 5-6 weeks and told him I was pregnant etc. but that I had been spotting on and off since I got my BFP I told him about this mid-cycle bleeding and asked whether it could have a negative impact on this pregnancy or whether it is anything I need to worry about. I listed hormone imbalance as one of the possible factors I thought it could relate to. He said no need to worry and we could get it looked into after this baby and sent me off with a scan recommendation for a week later.

Well its only now looking online after searching "Could mid-cycle bleeding cause miscarriage" and it came up saying that it can relate to low progesterone levels which can cause miscarriage, so lots of women are either given suppositories or injection in the first trimester to lesson their chances of miscarriage! I am fuming as even after my first scan showed only a yolk sac at what should have been 7 weeks I begged to have some tests done by my doctors and he refused to do anything and said best to wait for next scan. It seems everyone else seems to talk about having their HCG levels and progesterone levels checked to make sure they're still rising but I have been offered nothing?

I am feeling very confused as with my first pregnancy I had my midwife appointment at 6 wks where they took blood etc. and did tests. Well this time when I ran into the midwife she told me not to bother coming until 10 weeks where they will do all that. Well now I am losing this baby I am thinking, surely if they don't routinely do checks and bloods until 10 weeks or scans until 12, how are they supposed to pick up on any complications and save perfectly viable pregnancies from failing for unavoidable reasons, like hormone levels, if alll it takes is a prescription for the first trimester to give it the best chances.

Can anyone advise whether I'm just clutching at straws or whether there could be something in this?

Also angry at myself for not getting my body sorted out before I tried to conceive as am now scared I brought this on myself

Thanks in advance

xxx

oh sweetie, i understand exactly how you feel.....im just so sorry ur going thro this
my dr's never checked my progesterone, bloods once and I've had 5 losses in the last 2 years all between 4 and 6 weeks
my last pregnancy i asked for hcg injections and progestrone, was reffered to a gyne that morning by my dr and told he would be in contact later that day or the next one.
Now i've miscarried and it's been 3 weeks he has still never called me or offered any meds to help
i feel cheated by the nhs.....they just seem so heartless....so now im waiting for him to call (prob never will) so i can tell him
sorry for the rant it's just so wrong the way they treat us at such a difficult time in our lives xxxxx

I am so sorry for your losses, I can't believe you've had 5 that just doesn't bear thinking about! I also understand why you feel so cheated, that's awful, I reckon you should just call back and demand to speak to him! It will certainly get rid of some of your anger! Perhaps get another doctor for next time. I know the NHS are rubbish sometimes, I guess its all the red tape, resources and staff shortages.

I read that some people get put on progesterone from ovulation, can you try for that next time if you can get a decent doc who'll prescribe it or do they recommend taking it after conception? I hope you get the support you need soon so that you can carry to full term again.

xxx

Hi

Beaniebaby, I also have a slight hormonal imbalance (PCOS been ruled out) and do have irregular cycles and spotting; yet I've had three children and during those pregnancies I did experience spotting and it didn't create any problems. I've had two miscarriages but they were 10 years apart and the strong indication is they were due to a chromosomal problem. Please don't read too much into information online; there is a possibility it applies to your case but there is also a very strong possibility it didn't. I'd ask your doctor for the relevant blood tests (they usually test on cd3 and then sometimes on cd21 to compare the levels) but until you have those please don't worry and certainly do not blame yourself. From what I've read progesterone and the other treatments given during pregnancy; can have unpleasent side effects and other problems, so in the UK, they only give it after several recurrant miscarriages and making sure that is the cause. I don't think this is always a money saving ploy; I think in some things over here they are a bit more cautious because they feel any risks outweigh the benefits for most women. Same with the baby aspirin; it isn't generally recommended here because if you don't have a blood clotting problem; it could thin your blood too much which can cause various problems whereas you'll find in the US many doctors recommend it as a 'just in case' thing.

Soph xx

Thanks Sophster, that certainly all makes sense. I will speak to my doc and see what he says but perhaps I better calm down first and not go in there all guns blazing! I am a nightmare going online, I know I need to stop torturing myself! Thanks for your support. xxx

i cant help on the mid cycle bleeding part. but what i will say is please dont blame yourself for "not sorting your body out"


I wasnt trying for a baby but wasnt really avoiding it either at the time i found i was preganant at about 4 weeks 3 days i smoked 20 a day and would binge drink every weekend my diet was shhocking-- as soon as i found out about the baby i quit smoking cold turkey stopped drinking changed my diet e.t,c

I went over a brief time where i started to blame me!!! But you know what there is nothing we could have done!

How were you to know if by any remote chance your mid cycle bleeds were part of the cause that it could have ever led to this!!!!

I think to myself you know i would have been 20 weeks today but instead im hopefully on the mend eventually but i no longer smoke!! Myy angel baby gave me a gift a chance to get healthy to quit smoking think about what i eat more e.t.c so try and turn the blame/guilt thing into a positive for you!

Hi

I'm like that also. I was shocked when I found out I don't have PCOS because I was convinced I must have it; to have the symptoms that I have. My gp also thought it was a strong possibility but she stressed not jumping the gun. I'm relieved in a way because whatever hormonal imbalance I do have (and still waiting for my cd3 to be on a day when the clinic will be open to have the blood tests lol) isn't as serious. Whatever is causing my hormonal probs, I've had it all along and its not caused a major issue with my fertility before; and also it means I haven't developed a new problem. Just try and relax until you know for sure what is going on.

Soph

Thanks Bevan and congratulations on giving up smoking. It is crazy how sometimes some good can come out of our misfortune. Hopefully in time I will be able to be thankful for something too or see things at least a little bit clearer and blame free. I have calmed down a bit now. I think I just need the grieving process to start properly as i'm sort of at a plateau, as whilst this baby's still inside me its confusing all my emotions and I keep having to remind myself its all over, so its been part anger and part denial! xxx

Beaniebaby, i know exactly what you mean i knew it was over the day i started bleeding but only today 12 weeks on am i finally able to grieve properly not just numb or anger just acceptance and closer im sure there will be more tears and tantrums to come but i am now at a point where i hit the bottom and now feel i can climb out of this desperate pit of despair ive been trapped in.

You will eventually get to the finish line or at least find a way to accept and try and rebuild.

My heart goes out to you so so much, I always think of you when I come on here, I can only begin to imagine what you've gone through, the fact i'm only just starting out on this difficult journey fills me with dread, I just hope I don't have the complications you did. Its difficult enough grieving for the loss of your baby without all this additional pain and stress on top you've had to contend with. You should be really proud of yourself for getting through it, or at least to the bottom, like you say the only way is up! I am sure you will come out of this a stronger person though, we all will, or at least I hope that's the case. Like you say, some good has to come out of this, surely! xxx