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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 11:05 AM   #31
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The vets I worked with also give abortions at owners request if they weren't that far along. Though would refuse to abort if the kittens were full term. It's shocked though, some owners would rather them aborted than fostered.

Vets should always keep you fully informed on the procedure and abnormalites. I remember standing around for hours sometimes whilst a newly qualified vet tried to find the second horn on cats, Then senior vet comes in and finds it straight away!
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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 12:57 PM   #32
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They've actually committed cat cruelty on this.

Two points first:
1) he wants to do more surgery - no consideration for a possible pregnant cat.
2) he's failed to tell you about the effectively botched operation.

Courses of action:
1) P@H Head Office. Don't just write to them - CC the letter/email to the RSPCA. Ensure it says this.

2) RSPCA - they need to be informed and the vets investigated immediately. The likelyhood is that they'll look at your cats as well, look at the independant vets report (get one in writing) and also help fight your cause. They'll also most likely suspend P@H vets licence and take in Police Enforcement officers to force a "down of tools". This has happened previously with other P@H stores from memory.

I would strongly urge that you get some legal involvement in this. You have a potentially ill cat on your hands, not to mention additional costs of kittens and the independants vets too.

Whilst I don't condone what P@H have done, I suspect their head office in the interest of Public Relations, will want to keep this hushed up - work it to your advantage, remain calm and polite when talking to them but do not sign any documents to say you won't take it to the press. You need to be careful with any major chain - they will do anything to take away your rights and voice.

Good luck - keep us updated...
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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 12:59 PM   #33
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Kittens don't actually cost anything untill you start weening them, but yeah lol!
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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 13:20 PM   #34
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Kittens don't actually cost anything untill you start weening them, but yeah lol!
Vaccinations, insurance... it all adds up.
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Speak to the vet in question and if they offer no explanation then go to head office. Also i would wait for the 2nd opinion from the other vet, to see if there are any abnormalities, there is no way that a vet would know if there was one uterine horn prior to doing an anaesthetic, unless scans and blood tests were taken which are not done routinely.
I doubt that the RSPCA will be of any use, but you can speak to the RCVS they regulate the Veterinry Proffesion.

i doubt that they would pay for any kittens and would just advise you to carry on and spay her.

if she is an indoor cat then i doubt that she would have got mated.
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Vaccinations, insurance... it all adds up.
Yes, but if you sell them / get them fostered then you don't need to get them insured etc.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 14:05 PM   #37
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i tried the rspca for advice before i spoke to other vets and they were no help they just said cause i was on a low income they can help with the costs of vet bills.

i asked if it was a matter of cruelty and they said no because she only has one horn (i wasn't told this in the first place though) she just has abnormal anatomy and the vet couldnt have looked forever.

they still should have told me in the first place and offered some kind of follow up to check they had performed the operation properly?

i will be contacting RCVS i have a number for them already i want to see what the outcome of the second op is.

if they have left bits behind and caused unness suffering i will be seeking legal action and i will drag the vet in question over hot coals by his balls.

i spoke to the vet in question and he didnt offer me any answers, i had to call around the mk vet group to get advise.

the vet in question told me the only option was to cut her open, i asked about scanning her -cost isnt an problem with my animals id have paid for it to stop her having another op she may not need- he said they dont do that.

i spoke to other vets who said there was an injection that can be given that makes the reproductive system swell up. they do the injection then do bloods to see if there are hormones that need investigating then operate with anything that was left behind being made more visable by the injection previously given???

i wasnt offered this with pets at home.

its all a big big mess
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i tried the rspca for advice before i spoke to other vets and they were no help they just said cause i was on a low income they can help with the costs of vet bills.

i asked if it was a matter of cruelty and they said no because she only has one horn (i wasn't told this in the first place though) she just has abnormal anatomy and the vet couldnt have looked forever.

they still should have told me in the first place and offered some kind of follow up to check they had performed the operation properly?

i will be contacting RCVS i have a number for them already i want to see what the outcome of the second op is.

if they have left bits behind and caused unness suffering i will be seeking legal action and i will drag the vet in question over hot coals by his balls.

i spoke to the vet in question and he didnt offer me any answers, i had to call around the mk vet group to get advise.

the vet in question told me the only option was to cut her open, i asked about scanning her -cost isnt an problem with my animals id have paid for it to stop her having another op she may not need- he said they dont do that.

i spoke to other vets who said there was an injection that can be given that makes the reproductive system swell up. they do the injection then do bloods to see if there are hormones that need investigating then operate with anything that was left behind being made more visable by the injection previously given???

i wasnt offered this with pets at home.

its all a big big mess
I expect that the RCVS will not regard this as gross negligence
This link might help if you have not found it already

http://www.rcvs.org.uk/Templates/Int...p?NodeID=89916

I can understand the RSPCA saying that the vet couldnt search forever as a prolonged anaesthetic is an increased risk. The vet really should have explained that to you.

I'd be carefull with drugs that swell up the uterus as it could lead to complications during the operation, although it will make the horn more visable swelling could lead to increased risk of bleeding as there is during a season.

It could be that your cat has abnormal internal anatomy and the vet really could not find the other horn, but it all depends on what the other vet finds.
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Old Apr 30th, 2008, 15:19 PM   #39
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yeah as i said before ill wait untill the outcome of the next op before i proceed with anything.

thanks for everyones advice

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