Shocked at a mum at nursery! - Page 4

leighbaby · Mar 18th, 2010, 18:02 PM

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I live in the highlands right beside an RAF community, nursery is next to RAF accomodation. I doubt very much anything bad would have happend! Obv if I was in Inverness city I wouldn't dream of it

It doesnt make a difference how remote an area is...its not even the risk of outside threats to a child left in the car, its what harm they could do to themselves in the short time they are unattended

I do gardening while LO is napping...that is practically the same...

Its not really - your baby being safely asleep in its cot, in a safe environment, cant be compared to being unlocked/locked inside a potentially moving object that can also be struck by other vehicles

If I thought about that - I'd never take LO anywhere in the car...I'd never let OH drive anywhere either.

aliss · Mar 18th, 2010, 18:18 PM

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I live in the highlands right beside an RAF community, nursery is next to RAF accomodation. I doubt very much anything bad would have happend! Obv if I was in Inverness city I wouldn't dream of it

It doesnt make a difference how remote an area is...its not even the risk of outside threats to a child left in the car, its what harm they could do to themselves in the short time they are unattended

I do gardening while LO is napping...that is practically the same...

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I would never, never, never, EVER do this. No, I'm not a mom yet, but here's why:

I work as a 911 operator in a police department. Several times (I can think of at least 5), I have personally taken 911 calls from mothers & fathers who left their child in the car (even for a few seconds, even without the key in the ignition), and the car has been stolen. Career car thieves can smash a window and hotwire a car in less than 20 seconds.

The worst part of it is that you can't even figure out where mom or dad are, because they are so terrified or hyperventilating that they are just screaming, and you can't get a location or license plate. So far, at least a nearby person can grab phone from mom or dad and give the info.

Every time this has happened, the car thief usually leaves the car on the side of the road (usually a few blocks away) when they realize there is a baby in the car. They are usually on crack or other stimulants so they don't even notice the baby in the first place.

I'm certainly not going to judge any mom for doing this, because I know it is a nightmare to pull the baby out of the car - but please remember this can and does happen. Very few times does this actually make the news, probably because it often happens and ends within a few minutes.

How often do you recieve calls from parents who have stepped across the road with their LO and have been hit by a car, or have had nasty car accidents? statistically, other things are far more likely to happen. Car jackings are massivley unlikely to happen in my area.

Absolutely, and sure, those things happen. LO is more likely to choke on something when you are sitting right across from them at the table than to be in a car and stolen. Close friends and relatives are also far more likely to hurt your child than any stranger. Out of hundreds of child sex assault cases, I can think of maybe 2 that were perpetrated by a stranger. Strangers are generally not a danger.

I don't judge any mom for leaving her baby in the car, but once you've personally spoken to a mother whose baby has been essentially kidnapped (it is pretty horrific to hear the screeching mother), you would never do it yourself. It's my own personal decision.

leighbaby · Mar 18th, 2010, 18:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChloesMummy

I live in the highlands right beside an RAF community, nursery is next to RAF accomodation. I doubt very much anything bad would have happend! Obv if I was in Inverness city I wouldn't dream of it

It doesnt make a difference how remote an area is...its not even the risk of outside threats to a child left in the car, its what harm they could do to themselves in the short time they are unattended

I do gardening while LO is napping...that is practically the same...

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Originally Posted by aliss

I would never, never, never, EVER do this. No, I'm not a mom yet, but here's why:

I work as a 911 operator in a police department. Several times (I can think of at least 5), I have personally taken 911 calls from mothers & fathers who left their child in the car (even for a few seconds, even without the key in the ignition), and the car has been stolen. Career car thieves can smash a window and hotwire a car in less than 20 seconds.

The worst part of it is that you can't even figure out where mom or dad are, because they are so terrified or hyperventilating that they are just screaming, and you can't get a location or license plate. So far, at least a nearby person can grab phone from mom or dad and give the info.

Every time this has happened, the car thief usually leaves the car on the side of the road (usually a few blocks away) when they realize there is a baby in the car. They are usually on crack or other stimulants so they don't even notice the baby in the first place.

I'm certainly not going to judge any mom for doing this, because I know it is a nightmare to pull the baby out of the car - but please remember this can and does happen. Very few times does this actually make the news, probably because it often happens and ends within a few minutes.

How often do you recieve calls from parents who have stepped across the road with their LO and have been hit by a car, or have had nasty car accidents? statistically, other things are far more likely to happen. Car jackings are massivley unlikely to happen in my area.

Absolutely, and sure, those things happen. LO is more likely to choke on something when you are sitting right across from them at the table than to be in a car and stolen. Close friends and relatives are also far more likely to hurt your child than any stranger. Out of hundreds of child sex assault cases, I can think of maybe 2 that were perpetrated by a stranger. Strangers are generally not a danger.

I don't judge any mom for leaving her baby in the car, but once you've personally spoken to a mother whose baby has been essentially kidnapped (it is pretty horrific to hear the screeching mother), you would never do it yourself. It's my own personal decision.

thanks for the explanantion. There are things I would never do, but not judge others for doing because of what I have seen/heard.

aly888 · Mar 18th, 2010, 18:41 PM

I leave my baby in the car when paying for fuel,but I hate it.im getting used to it now,but it still feels like im ignoring my common sense!!
I have also left her in the car whilst I put the trolley back,especially when it was raining.but the trolley park at my tesco is right by the mum and baby spaces.if I cant get a mum and baby space,i take her with me!more recently though,i have been naughty and just left the trolley to the side,like iv seen many other mothers do.i justify it by thinking to myself how much I appreciate pulling in and having a trolley right there coz someone hasnt put it away,meaning I dont have to leave my baby,or carry her across to the trolleys (im a weakling.lol)!!

Im sure as time goes on il feel more and more comfortable about leaving her in the car.never ever unlocked though!!

MoonMuffin · Mar 18th, 2010, 19:14 PM

Personally I'm not comfortable leaving my kids in the car, I get nervous even when I put the shopping cart away I lock the car and sprint like mad

(I leave it next to my car if there's room) (When it was just Kathryn I took her with me to put the cart back, but with them both of them forget it). I even drag John in and back when dropping off/picking up Kathryn from daycare (2 days a week), just this morning John was sleeping peacefully but I just couldn't leave him.

I totally understand other moms leaving them really quick, but I just can't do it myself. Also what if someone notices a baby/toddler in the car? They may call the police and you may not be able to prove how long you were gone. Actually I think there is a law here that you can't leave a child under a certain age unattended.

suzanne108 · Mar 18th, 2010, 22:37 PM

I understand peoples reasons but I'm shocked at how many people do it if I'm honest!

I personally would never do it. No matter how much of a pain it is to lug the car seat back and to! I avoid nipping into places when I'm in the car. If I need to go to the corner shop I'll walk with the pram, if I need petrol I either pay at pump or a drive thru paydesk. If I did happen to go to a petrol station where I had to go in the shop then I'd much rather take her in with me. I'd be more worried about the car setting on fire than her breathing in petrol fumes.

OP, I would have been worried too and prob waited for the mum to come back! Whenever I pick my nephew up it can take a good 20 mins to get back to the car sometimes. X

dizzyisacow · Mar 19th, 2010, 00:57 AM

i wouldnt do it with a young baby but i do do it with ari sometimes, always with a locked car, and no more than 2 minutes tops.

i wanted to share this story that shocked me but never posted about it as i didnt want to open a thread.

i went to a shop to get something and there was a man in there shopping for about 5 minutes and the woman behind the till asked em if i left the baby in the car, and i said no why and she said theres a baby in the car outside, wit the door of the car wide open! (i know this woman thats why she asked me) so this guy gets his stuff gets in the car and puts the heavy bag full of stuff on the babies lap that was in the front seat i must mention. the baby got frustrated and must have pushed the bag so he grabs the bag and slams it hard onto the baby and shoves it a few times angrily slams his door and leaves. i was gobsmacked and very sad.

MyFirstNoodle · Mar 19th, 2010, 01:24 AM

Just browsing threads and read this one! I think its ok to leave LO in the car if you pay for petrol as long as you can see them but I think the lady described in the opening message that left her child in the car (which was parked far way) and she couldnt see the child is a little wrong....

Saying that....not so long ago this mum went into a mini Tescos near where I use to live (was a busy area) her little boy about 4/5 (who had curly blonde hair) was at the magazine stand and the mum went to get some milk (or something) literally 2 seconds away...she walked up.....got the milk....turned around and starting walking back down!! But when she turned around the little boy was gone...she started screaming and everyone ran outside looking for the little boy!

A man was in the shop and saw the boy on his own...grabbed him and put him in his car and when everyone ran outside to the car park at the front of the shop the man was sitting in the back of the car with the boy sitting on the floor shaving off his hair! Everyone surrounded the car and forced the man to get out!

So even if you take your LO into the shop bad things can still happen xx

dizzyisacow · Mar 19th, 2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MyFirstNoodle

Just browsing threads and read this one! I think its ok to leave LO in the car if you pay for petrol as long as you can see them but I think the lady described in the opening message that left her child in the car (which was parked far way) and she couldnt see the child is a little wrong....

Saying that....not so long ago this mum went into a mini Tescos near where I use to live (was a busy area) her little boy about 4/5 (who had curly blonde hair) was at the magazine stand and the mum went to get some milk (or something) literally 2 seconds away...she walked up.....got the milk....turned around and starting walking back down!! But when she turned around the little boy was gone...she started screaming and everyone ran outside looking for the little boy!

A man was in the shop and saw the boy on his own...grabbed him and put him in his car and when everyone ran outside to the car park at the front of the shop the man was sitting in the back of the car with the boy sitting on the floor shaving off his hair! Everyone surronded the car and forced the man to get out!

So even if you take your LO into the shop bad things can still happen xx

MyFirstNoodle · Mar 19th, 2010, 01:31 AM

I know! But thank god they got the LO in time! Alot of mums refused to use the shop after that! was all over the local paper!

Mar 18th, 2010, 18:41 PM	#34
aly888 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 5,615	I leave my baby in the car when paying for fuel,but I hate it.im getting used to it now,but it still feels like im ignoring my common sense!! I have also left her in the car whilst I put the trolley back,especially when it was raining.but the trolley park at my tesco is right by the mum and baby spaces.if I cant get a mum and baby space,i take her with me!more recently though,i have been naughty and just left the trolley to the side,like iv seen many other mothers do.i justify it by thinking to myself how much I appreciate pulling in and having a trolley right there coz someone hasnt put it away,meaning I dont have to leave my baby,or carry her across to the trolleys (im a weakling.lol)!! Im sure as time goes on il feel more and more comfortable about leaving her in the car.never ever unlocked though!!

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Mar 18th, 2010, 19:14 PM	#35
MoonMuffin Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Norwalk, CT Posts: 3,369	Personally I'm not comfortable leaving my kids in the car, I get nervous even when I put the shopping cart away I lock the car and sprint like mad (I leave it next to my car if there's room) (When it was just Kathryn I took her with me to put the cart back, but with them both of them forget it). I even drag John in and back when dropping off/picking up Kathryn from daycare (2 days a week), just this morning John was sleeping peacefully but I just couldn't leave him. I totally understand other moms leaving them really quick, but I just can't do it myself. Also what if someone notices a baby/toddler in the car? They may call the police and you may not be able to prove how long you were gone. Actually I think there is a law here that you can't leave a child under a certain age unattended.

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Mar 18th, 2010, 22:37 PM	#36
suzanne108 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,844	I understand peoples reasons but I'm shocked at how many people do it if I'm honest! I personally would never do it. No matter how much of a pain it is to lug the car seat back and to! I avoid nipping into places when I'm in the car. If I need to go to the corner shop I'll walk with the pram, if I need petrol I either pay at pump or a drive thru paydesk. If I did happen to go to a petrol station where I had to go in the shop then I'd much rather take her in with me. I'd be more worried about the car setting on fire than her breathing in petrol fumes. OP, I would have been worried too and prob waited for the mum to come back! Whenever I pick my nephew up it can take a good 20 mins to get back to the car sometimes. X

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Mar 19th, 2010, 00:57 AM	#37
dizzyisacow Other BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,807	i wouldnt do it with a young baby but i do do it with ari sometimes, always with a locked car, and no more than 2 minutes tops. i wanted to share this story that shocked me but never posted about it as i didnt want to open a thread. i went to a shop to get something and there was a man in there shopping for about 5 minutes and the woman behind the till asked em if i left the baby in the car, and i said no why and she said theres a baby in the car outside, wit the door of the car wide open! (i know this woman thats why she asked me) so this guy gets his stuff gets in the car and puts the heavy bag full of stuff on the babies lap that was in the front seat i must mention. the baby got frustrated and must have pushed the bag so he grabs the bag and slams it hard onto the baby and shoves it a few times angrily slams his door and leaves. i was gobsmacked and very sad.

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Mar 19th, 2010, 01:24 AM	#38
MyFirstNoodle Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 929	Just browsing threads and read this one! I think its ok to leave LO in the car if you pay for petrol as long as you can see them but I think the lady described in the opening message that left her child in the car (which was parked far way) and she couldnt see the child is a little wrong.... Saying that....not so long ago this mum went into a mini Tescos near where I use to live (was a busy area) her little boy about 4/5 (who had curly blonde hair) was at the magazine stand and the mum went to get some milk (or something) literally 2 seconds away...she walked up.....got the milk....turned around and starting walking back down!! But when she turned around the little boy was gone...she started screaming and everyone ran outside looking for the little boy! A man was in the shop and saw the boy on his own...grabbed him and put him in his car and when everyone ran outside to the car park at the front of the shop the man was sitting in the back of the car with the boy sitting on the floor shaving off his hair! Everyone surrounded the car and forced the man to get out! So even if you take your LO into the shop bad things can still happen xx

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Mar 19th, 2010, 01:31 AM	#40
MyFirstNoodle Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 929	I know! But thank god they got the LO in time! Alot of mums refused to use the shop after that! was all over the local paper!

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