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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 09:07 AM   #11
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The Stephen Gately thing was dire. She basically made out that he died because he was gay and all gay men take part in drugs and bizarre sex acts. She's a horrible woman


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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 09:22 AM   #12
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Linzi, here it is if you can bring yourself to it. It was originally entiled 'nothing normal about Gately death' but they changed it. Too much even for the Mail!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...g-death--.html
I honestly don't think I just read that...

did I?



 
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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 09:29 AM   #13
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I don't like Jan Moir's writing style at all. But I do think if you battle through the inflammatory stuff, her point is valid on this one.

The mother she refers to shouldn't use the changing room for feeding, at least not without asking first. It's not like it's a 2 minute job, and charity shops rarely have more than one changing room. Average feeding times are what - 30-60 minutes? I can understand him checking if it had been occupied for even half of that, an old dear might have died in there or something! She clearly knew it was wrong, else why be sneaky about it?

Most places will try to accommodate or suggest somewhere suitable if you explain the situation. I'm all for mothers to be able to breastfeed when they need to, but most use a bit more common sense than this lady in choosing where to do it! I have to say, that given the circumstances, I'm surprised at the amount of support this lady has received.

It's a shame Jan Moir can't seem to get her point across without being so offensive.


 
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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 09:47 AM   #14
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I don't know what circumstances led her to go to the changing room in the charity shop (was she in there anyway or went in there specifically to find a place to breastfeed?). Either way, it's not out of order to question the man who snooped on her in the changing room, even if she was in there for an extended period of time. He should have used his vocal chords and stood outside the door and talked to her, rather than barging in. It definitely could have been settled in another way... I personally wouldn't feel the need to go hunt down a lone changing room anywhere to feed anyway as I feel comfortable doing so wherever I am, lol

One thing I disagree with strongly is the comparison made between going to the toilet and breastfeeding. It's an outrageously inaccurate comparison and insulting to boot. If people think feeding a baby and taking a piss fall into the same category, then I would invite them to take their next plate of food into the toilet and eat it there, and see how similar the comparison feels then! Oh wells, inflammatory articles like this are best left avoided.

As for her other associations thrown in with breastfeeding, like the ramming strollers and whatnot...she's just tossing those in to add to the underpinning ''feeling of wrongness'' in the article so that feeling will carry over to the breastfeeding issue.


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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 10:25 AM   #15
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It's not like it's a 2 minute job, and charity shops rarely have more than one changing room. Average feeding times are what - 30-60 minutes? I can understand him checking if it had been occupied for even half of that, an old dear might have died in there or something!
Actually, by the time your baby is 10 months old a feed rarely lasts longer than 10 mins. Blythe is 6 months and rarely takes longer than 5 mins when we're out and about.


 
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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 10:30 AM   #16
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I could only read half of the article as I was getting myself in a tiddle!
Abhorrent sums her up.


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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #17
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I'm afraid too many mums are self-righteous

By Jan Moir

Come on, mums! Left, right, left, right, shoulders back, chest out, nipple in: go, go, go!

After a nursing mother was thrown out of a South-East London charity shop this week, angry mums are mobilising to launch a mass breast-feed-in on the premises. Hungry or not, mewling tots must be prepared to shut up and glug back in the name of lactating-mum liberty and breast-is-best propagandists.
stupid woman

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These include, as if we all didn't know, the right to mow you down with a buggy if you don't get out of the way quickly enough; the right to behave as if they have just given birth to the second coming of Christ instead of a farty little squirt called Sam; the right to congregate en masse all day in the best coffee shop seats, sharing a single latte and a blueberry muffin between six; the right to sigh like a tornado when their Hummer-sized pram cuts your heel to the bone; and the general and overreaching right to behave as if the normal rules of polite society do not apply to them.
Well if idiots like her didn't speed up to get in front of the pram and then slow down when they had done so they wouldn't get rammed with a pushchair. Judging from this article and other articles I have read she is the one guilty of behaving as if normal rules of polite society don't apply

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However, let us be fair. Isn't it also rather shabby of Mrs Baker to hint to newspapers that the manager might be some kind of peeping tom? Especially as it seems possible that she snuck into Mind with the express intention of feeding her baby there.
She was actually in there trying on clothes. Silly woman needs to do more research

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Campaigners and mothers always like to occupy the moral high ground by insisting that those who object are curmudgeons. Why, breast-feeding is the most natural and beautiful thing in the world, they cry. Well, so is urinating, but no one insists on doing that wherever and whenever the need takes their fancy. Not outside France, at any rate.
urination is beautiful?? well I never

I say mass breast-feed-in at her desk


 
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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #18
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I pity this poor, lonely, obviously childless, mentally and intellectually challenged, attention seeking, fat, ugly, wrinkly old later.


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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 11:24 AM   #19
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I pity this poor, lonely, obviously childless, mentally and intellectually challenged, attention seeking, fat, ugly, wrinkly old later.
When I first saw you on first tri hun I saw your username and thought 'oh
blimey, we might not get on'... I now see the error of my ways.


 
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Old Mar 10th, 2010, 11:24 AM   #20
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Oh my god, that woman is a disgrace. When I breastfeed I doubt people would even realise I am doing it as I am completely discreet and cause no offense to anybody. I can't believe she compares it to urination.


 
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