Child size condoms - Page 5

valentine75 · Mar 8th, 2010, 19:37 PM

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i read that on the daily mail but didnt believe it. i though they are doing them for smaller sized men. they cant possibly be seriously doing condoms for children ffs?

The UK has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe - so I'd say its not a joke - something needs to be done to stop this happening.

yeah kids need to stop having sex.

That would be the easy solution, but the UK has tried all sorts, sex education, shocking adverts on TV - nothing has really worked.

There is one easy option drop the age of consent to 14. In countries such as Iceland where the age of consent is 14 and the pregnancy rate is the lowest in the western world. Basically the reason most teens in the U.K have sex is to rebel against their parents and the system in general. Of course no 14 year old is going to go in to a chemsit and ask for condoms (more than likely family planning would supply them) but at least its not a one way streak where the girl has to be the one taking protection.

Sarahkka · Mar 8th, 2010, 21:33 PM

I think that all of this only reaffirms my conviction in handing my child the best possible form of birth control as soon as I think he is ready to hear it: education and communication. The best protection I can give my kid is to make sure he knows all the facts, that he has access to good material to figure stuff out for himself (ie I really don't want him to learn about sex from pornos, so I plan to make sure that he has other materials that discuss sex frankly, but more completely - risks, emotions, etc), and that he knows that his father and I will listen respectfully and discuss things with him.
Personally, I think that is how to channel a lot of the sexual energy of the pubescent crowd and how to give a lot of them the self-confidence to choose the right time for themselves. The absolute worst tactic is to use shame and make a big taboo out of the topic. That's the recipe for disaster, I think.

suzanne108 · Mar 9th, 2010, 01:18 AM

Do you think that the only reason kids don't use condoms is because they don't fit?

I don't. I think they don't use them because they're embarassed to buy them or get them from the family planning clinic. Then they're embarassed that in the heat of the moment, with somebody that they may not know that well, they have to get out a condom and put it on. And they probably don't want their mums to find them in their bedrooms!

I think that the boys sensible enough to use the child size condoms would probably use adult size condoms anyway

I think making condoms cheaper could possibly help. I know you can get them free but that means going to a clinic with people sitting around in silence and saying to an old lady "can I have some condoms please? Give me some of those child ones because I've got a little willy". Not gonna happen! (Thats what family planning clinic is like near me anyway with the silence and the old ladies!)

aly888 · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:09 AM

Sarahkka,i totally agree!!i will be teaching my children about sex etc as soon as they are old enough to understand it.i dont want her to think that sex is such a big thing and that its restricted to adults coz guess what,most teenagers want to be adults,so what are they gona do...have sex like the adults do!!!i will be talking to them about contraception and I will probably give them some myself (so they dont have the embarrassment of asking at the clinic).whether they are in a position to use it or not is another matter,but I would rather they had the contraception to hand BEFORE they engage in activities like sex rather than finding out afterwards!!
I also agree that the age of consent should be lowered,although I dont want that to make it ok for a 35year old to sleep with a 14year old and thats where the law could get messy!!
Its about being responsible and shouldnt be about forcing teenagers to wait until WE say its ok...

aly888 · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:14 AM

Valentine75,its not just the low age of consent that contributes to the low teenage pregnancy figures.in Iceland I believe they start basic sex ed from a much younger age!!im not talking they go into all the details with pictures etc,but they start talking about the emotional side of things. then as they go on in school they get more and more details.eventually,sex becomes such a 'normal' topic they dont see the rebellious nature of it and dont feel embarrassed by asking for contraception and are less likely to feel pressured if they dont fancy jumping in the sack right after their 14th birthday!!

caz81 · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:33 AM

I find it all really shocking, 12yr olds should be playing with toys not having sex!! It amazes me that because its happening in a developed country people are ok with it, yet when we read about 12yr olds married & giving birth in a developing country there is a massive outcry.
Providing these sends out the wrong message-the law say no sex under 16 yet when children get pregnant what is done-nothing...either get rid of the law or dont do things to support people breaking it imo

dizzyisacow · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:41 AM

when i was 12 i didnt even know what sex was. and i found everything out by asking my mum at around age 14. but i didnt have friends, nowadays everyone learns everything from their friends or the easier way internet!

aly888 · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:45 AM

But the law also says its ok to HAVE sex at 16 but you cant WATCH sex until you are 18...is that not a contradiction also?one that people seem ok with?!
I agree,at 12 children really shouldnt be thinking of sex as a past-time,but the reality is some of them do.an unfortunate amount of them do!!that is why I believe our sex-ed should begin much younger and not just be a couple of weeks when you are 12 or whenever it is!!sex education isnt even part of the curriculum,so think how many children out there arent even recieving sex-ed at all before they get into bed with someone else?and then the government wonder why we have such high teenage pregnancy rates!!

dizzyisacow · Mar 9th, 2010, 03:51 AM

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But the law also says its ok to HAVE sex at 16 but you cant WATCH sex until you are 18...is that not a contradiction also?one that people seem ok with?!
I agree,at 12 children really shouldnt be thinking of sex as a past-time,but the reality is some of them do.an unfortunate amount of them do!!that is why I believe our sex-ed should begin much younger and not just be a couple of weeks when you are 12 or whenever it is!!sex education isnt even part of the curriculum,so think how many children out there arent even recieving sex-ed at all before they get into bed with someone else?and then the government wonder why we have such high teenage pregnancy rates!!

thats because sex movies show things alot more kinky than straightforward sex that even if your having sex at 16 they can shock you because your not ready to see such things. and theres no need to be watching such things at 16.

aly888 · Mar 9th, 2010, 04:09 AM

I agree,but my point was even the most basic sex scenes are rated 18 (one persons idea of 'basic' might be different to others) and at 16 teenagers could be engaging in much kinkier rituals than we realise!!iv heard of 15 and 16 year olds having three-somes etc

And as I think you said,the internet is a wealth of knowledge and there seems to be very little restrictions on who can view what (ok,so the pages say 'do not enter if you are under 18',but thats not going to stop anyone is it)!!i just personally feel happier knowing that if my child for some reason was that way inclined at that age (although I am gona try my hardest to convince them not to be) then I want them to be able to do it safely and not just bury my head in the sand!!

Mar 8th, 2010, 21:33 PM	#42
Sarahkka Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 8,748	I think that all of this only reaffirms my conviction in handing my child the best possible form of birth control as soon as I think he is ready to hear it: education and communication. The best protection I can give my kid is to make sure he knows all the facts, that he has access to good material to figure stuff out for himself (ie I really don't want him to learn about sex from pornos, so I plan to make sure that he has other materials that discuss sex frankly, but more completely - risks, emotions, etc), and that he knows that his father and I will listen respectfully and discuss things with him. Personally, I think that is how to channel a lot of the sexual energy of the pubescent crowd and how to give a lot of them the self-confidence to choose the right time for themselves. The absolute worst tactic is to use shame and make a big taboo out of the topic. That's the recipe for disaster, I think.

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Mar 9th, 2010, 01:18 AM	#43
suzanne108 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,844	Do you think that the only reason kids don't use condoms is because they don't fit? I don't. I think they don't use them because they're embarassed to buy them or get them from the family planning clinic. Then they're embarassed that in the heat of the moment, with somebody that they may not know that well, they have to get out a condom and put it on. And they probably don't want their mums to find them in their bedrooms! I think that the boys sensible enough to use the child size condoms would probably use adult size condoms anyway I think making condoms cheaper could possibly help. I know you can get them free but that means going to a clinic with people sitting around in silence and saying to an old lady "can I have some condoms please? Give me some of those child ones because I've got a little willy". Not gonna happen! (Thats what family planning clinic is like near me anyway with the silence and the old ladies!)

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Mar 9th, 2010, 03:09 AM	#44
aly888 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 5,615	Sarahkka,i totally agree!!i will be teaching my children about sex etc as soon as they are old enough to understand it.i dont want her to think that sex is such a big thing and that its restricted to adults coz guess what,most teenagers want to be adults,so what are they gona do...have sex like the adults do!!!i will be talking to them about contraception and I will probably give them some myself (so they dont have the embarrassment of asking at the clinic).whether they are in a position to use it or not is another matter,but I would rather they had the contraception to hand BEFORE they engage in activities like sex rather than finding out afterwards!! I also agree that the age of consent should be lowered,although I dont want that to make it ok for a 35year old to sleep with a 14year old and thats where the law could get messy!! Its about being responsible and shouldnt be about forcing teenagers to wait until WE say its ok...

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Mar 9th, 2010, 03:14 AM	#45
aly888 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 5,615	Valentine75,its not just the low age of consent that contributes to the low teenage pregnancy figures.in Iceland I believe they start basic sex ed from a much younger age!!im not talking they go into all the details with pictures etc,but they start talking about the emotional side of things. then as they go on in school they get more and more details.eventually,sex becomes such a 'normal' topic they dont see the rebellious nature of it and dont feel embarrassed by asking for contraception and are less likely to feel pressured if they dont fancy jumping in the sack right after their 14th birthday!!

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Mar 9th, 2010, 03:33 AM	#46
caz81 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,219	I find it all really shocking, 12yr olds should be playing with toys not having sex!! It amazes me that because its happening in a developed country people are ok with it, yet when we read about 12yr olds married & giving birth in a developing country there is a massive outcry. Providing these sends out the wrong message-the law say no sex under 16 yet when children get pregnant what is done-nothing...either get rid of the law or dont do things to support people breaking it imo

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Mar 9th, 2010, 03:41 AM	#47
dizzyisacow Other BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,807	when i was 12 i didnt even know what sex was. and i found everything out by asking my mum at around age 14. but i didnt have friends, nowadays everyone learns everything from their friends or the easier way internet!

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Mar 9th, 2010, 03:45 AM	#48
aly888 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 5,615	But the law also says its ok to HAVE sex at 16 but you cant WATCH sex until you are 18...is that not a contradiction also?one that people seem ok with?! I agree,at 12 children really shouldnt be thinking of sex as a past-time,but the reality is some of them do.an unfortunate amount of them do!!that is why I believe our sex-ed should begin much younger and not just be a couple of weeks when you are 12 or whenever it is!!sex education isnt even part of the curriculum,so think how many children out there arent even recieving sex-ed at all before they get into bed with someone else?and then the government wonder why we have such high teenage pregnancy rates!!

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Mar 9th, 2010, 04:09 AM	#50
aly888 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bedford, UK Posts: 5,615	I agree,but my point was even the most basic sex scenes are rated 18 (one persons idea of 'basic' might be different to others) and at 16 teenagers could be engaging in much kinkier rituals than we realise!!iv heard of 15 and 16 year olds having three-somes etc And as I think you said,the internet is a wealth of knowledge and there seems to be very little restrictions on who can view what (ok,so the pages say 'do not enter if you are under 18',but thats not going to stop anyone is it)!!i just personally feel happier knowing that if my child for some reason was that way inclined at that age (although I am gona try my hardest to convince them not to be) then I want them to be able to do it safely and not just bury my head in the sand!!

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