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Minstermind · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:43 AM

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People are not having sex at ''younger ages'' than they did years ago. It's been happening since the beginning of time. In fact, it was MORE normal for teenagers to be having children and marrying in ''ancient times'' (hate using that word) than it was for older ones. The only thing that has changed since those times is that people started being healthier for longer in their lives, lived longer in many cases, and slowly the CULTURAL norm for sex and children changed, not the BIOLOGICAL norm that has underscored sexual activity for centuries.

im not talking about ancient times im talking about the past 100 years or less. x

I don't think it's changed at all in the last 100 years or less. I think it's been a lot more hidden and shamed. Here in Ireland, countless teen moms were shuffled off into convents and hidden from society. Their babies were taken off them and sold. No one talked about it and it's only come to light more recently with all the scandals unfolding about the Catholic church. That's just one example, but my point is, I don't think it's any different than it was. I just think people's opinions and actions towards it are different.

Lisa1302 · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Minstermind

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Originally Posted by dizzyisacow

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Originally Posted by Minstermind

People are not having sex at ''younger ages'' than they did years ago. It's been happening since the beginning of time. In fact, it was MORE normal for teenagers to be having children and marrying in ''ancient times'' (hate using that word) than it was for older ones. The only thing that has changed since those times is that people started being healthier for longer in their lives, lived longer in many cases, and slowly the CULTURAL norm for sex and children changed, not the BIOLOGICAL norm that has underscored sexual activity for centuries.

im not talking about ancient times im talking about the past 100 years or less. x

I don't think it's changed at all in the last 100 years or less. I think it's been a lot more hidden and shamed. Here in Ireland, countless teen moms were shuffled off into convents and hidden from society. Their babies were taken off them and sold. No one talked about it and it's only come to light more recently with all the scandals unfolding about the Catholic church. That's just one example, but my point is, I don't think it's any different than it was. I just think people's opinions and actions towards it are different.

Abortions were also very secretive - they weren't documented so no one knows for sure how many there were.
I watched Revolution Road the other night, with Kate Winslett, that was in the 50s and she used some contraption thing to try to abort her baby - ended up cutting herself and bleeding to death - but that isn't all that long ago that abortions were done in secret. (she wasn't a teen btw)

dizzyisacow · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:51 AM

urges.. sorry but i just cant wrap my head around it. these urges can be controlled if said person wants to unless they have a problem. i dont think its natural for 12 year olds to have "urges" and to not be able to control them.

Lisa1302 · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzyisacow

urges.. sorry but i just cant wrap my head around it. these urges can be controlled if said person wants to unless they have a problem. i dont think its natural for 12 year olds to have "urges" and to not be able to control them.

I think it has a lot to do with peer pressure - one girl/boy says she has done it (regardless of whether she/he actually did!) and her/his friends are clearly one down until they too 'do it'...whether or not they really feel the urge to!

Minstermind · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:56 AM

It's very natural to have urges once hormones kick in to gear. That's a separate issue from what is expected of them in today's culture (the difference between ''natural'' and ''cultural normal'' in my opinion).

dizzyisacow · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa1302

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Originally Posted by dizzyisacow

urges.. sorry but i just cant wrap my head around it. these urges can be controlled if said person wants to unless they have a problem. i dont think its natural for 12 year olds to have "urges" and to not be able to control them.

I think it has a lot to do with peer pressure - one girl/boy says she has done it (regardless of whether she/he actually did!) and her/his friends are clearly one down until they too 'do it'...whether or not they really feel the urge to!

what can i say? over here girls never tell their friends if they had sex for fear of beeing labeled cheap/easy e.t.c

Lisa1302 · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Minstermind

It's very natural to have urges once hormones kick in to gear. That's a separate issue from what is expected of them in today's culture (the difference between ''natural'' and ''cultural normal'' in my opinion).

this is very true
I will give the example of my foals - they are younger than Izzy is yet they have started to show all the natural behaviour of wanting to mount the mares etc - just because they are under 1 year old and not of an age that we would ever want to put them to stud doesn't mean that they don't have the urges!!!

princess_bump · Mar 8th, 2010, 05:59 AM

personally i am all for more contraception being available. obviously i certainly do not agree with children having sex, and i don't think that 12 a child is mature enough to make these decision's, but they obviously are choosing to have sex, whether we agree with it or not!
i always have always been of the opinion that making contraception more readily available doesn't mean teenagers are more likely to go and 'do it', just as i've never believed that more sex education lead's to more under age sex.
i think as a society we do certainly need to tackle under age sex, as a parent i will always be open and honest with my daughter, and i hope she will always be a to confide in me, like i have been with my mum.
when it comes down to it, i what ever my children do, i would rather her my safe, and to no, i'm always there for her.

Lisa1302 · Mar 8th, 2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzyisacow

urges.. sorry but i just cant wrap my head around it. these urges can be controlled if said person wants to unless they have a problem. i dont think its natural for 12 year olds to have "urges" and to not be able to control them.

I think it has a lot to do with peer pressure - one girl/boy says she has done it (regardless of whether she/he actually did!) and her/his friends are clearly one down until they too 'do it'...whether or not they really feel the urge to!

what can i say? over here girls never tell their friends if they had sex for fear of beeing labeled cheap/easy e.t.c

that is exactly how it was when I was in school, and I am only 30 so not that long ago...it was slightly different in the town schools (we were very rural) but still no where near like it is now.

Maybe Home and Away is to blame?

Katieeeee · Mar 8th, 2010, 06:02 AM

Youngsters are going to have sex with each other whether anybody likes it or not. So why be all "taboo" about it? Why not try and solve the teen pregnancy/stds problem rather than turn away and pretend it's not going on?

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What's the point of having an age of consent if you're then going to market condoms at young teenagers?

Ok, so we just let them carry on giving birth to babies they can't look after and we encourage them to spread STDs?

That's kind of ignorant and it's hardly going to solve the problem. A law is there to protect people, but that doesn't mean we can't protect those who break it too, especially if the consequences of their actions affect the whole of society in general.

I think it's a fabulous idea. Child sized condoms aren't going to encourage children to have sex. When I was younger I didn't pick a condom up and say "oh god, I've touched this condom so now I NEED to have sex."...I blew them up and filled them up with water!

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dizzyisacow Other BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,807	urges.. sorry but i just cant wrap my head around it. these urges can be controlled if said person wants to unless they have a problem. i dont think its natural for 12 year olds to have "urges" and to not be able to control them.

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Minstermind Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,376	It's very natural to have urges once hormones kick in to gear. That's a separate issue from what is expected of them in today's culture (the difference between ''natural'' and ''cultural normal'' in my opinion).

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princess_bump Mum (Mom) BnB Spammer Elite Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 31,453	personally i am all for more contraception being available. obviously i certainly do not agree with children having sex, and i don't think that 12 a child is mature enough to make these decision's, but they obviously are choosing to have sex, whether we agree with it or not! i always have always been of the opinion that making contraception more readily available doesn't mean teenagers are more likely to go and 'do it', just as i've never believed that more sex education lead's to more under age sex. i think as a society we do certainly need to tackle under age sex, as a parent i will always be open and honest with my daughter, and i hope she will always be a to confide in me, like i have been with my mum. when it comes down to it, i what ever my children do, i would rather her my safe, and to no, i'm always there for her.

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