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May 4th, 2008, 15:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenny Well said hon, I completely agree with you. I'm very open minded as well.
As long as the child is loved, cared for etc I see nothing wrong with this. I'm sure they won't tell the child that the *father* is the one that gave birth to him/her until they know that the child can completely understand.
I don't think this is different from any gay/lesbian couple doing IVF/surrogate/adoption to conceive a child. I think everyone who can provide a loving, caring home is entitled to having children. Sure, its not the *normal* but times are changing. | Well said!
It does look odd... and his hormones must be REALLY confused  - I wonder if his breasts will start to grow again and produce milk?
It takes some getting my head around, but none of us have the right to judge this couple and tell them they don't deserve to have kids that are at least partly their own. I've not doubt they will be well looked after - the baby is obviously really wanted - so much so that the man has been willing to give up his total male status for a while and carry the baby to term - does anyone have a husband that they think would be willing to do this for the sake of having your child together?? I think it's actually quite amazing. A (really quite odd) but beautiful story of love and commitment. | | | | Status: Offline
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May 4th, 2008, 22:43 PM
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#42 | | TTC a little Fluzy BabyandBump Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento California
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I'm Currently Feeling: |  This story is Discusting!!!!!! It is not a man, and I wish everyone would stop calling her that. If she want to be a man, then she should have completed the procedure and had a full sex change opporation. She has woman bits, so it is a woman who looks and acts like a man.....
now with that said, everyone has a right to become parents... So I hope that they have a happy and healthy baby. and I hope that child does not have issues with its parents choices.... | | | | Status: Online
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May 5th, 2008, 02:09 AM
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#43 | | Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Northern Ontario
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I'm Currently Feeling: | Wasn't this couple on Oprah...I saw her show the other day and she showed a clip from that episode......A man with a prego belly.
But thats all I saw didn't know the story until I read it here.
So the story is true.....
There are alot of stories of people...and even kids with gender identity disorder.
Its not disgusting....its how these people feel and if more of us understood it instead of making fun or wrinkling our noses at it...
We wouldn't have to worry about how the baby will cope with the opinion of others. | | | | Status: Offline
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May 6th, 2008, 20:08 PM
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#44 | | Proud Mummy Chat happy BnB member Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by Suz  This story is Discusting!!!!!! It is not a man, and I wish everyone would stop calling her that. If she want to be a man, then she should have completed the procedure and had a full sex change opporation. She has woman bits, so it is a woman who looks and acts like a man.....
now with that said, everyone has a right to become parents... So I hope that they have a happy and healthy baby. and I hope that child does not have issues with its parents choices.... | Are you sure that sex(gender) is entirely physical?? This 'woman' has always felt as if he were a man trapped in a female body... shouldn't we respect his belief and feeling that he is male and not female? Afterall, what bearing does a persons physical reproductive organs have on who they are in themselves?? This person feels they are a man, but have delayed the continued surgery (to my knowledge? He was planning on having the final surgery at a later date, wasn't he?) in order to have a baby.
Would you feel this way about a man who had had a complete sex change? Because it really is not their man-made penis that makes them male, but the fact that they just ARE men - and it is this that drives them to have the sex change in the first place - they wouldn't have it if they felt that they were women inside - and it's what's inside that matters - this man IS a man, so what if he's still in a partly female body? | | | | Status: Offline
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May 7th, 2008, 15:41 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | it isnt a he as its internal organs are female she should of had it all removed for a sex change lol there is a real man in china tho whos pg by ive now thats an amazing story  | | | | Status: Offline
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May 7th, 2008, 16:13 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | If this woman wants to be labled as having a Gender Disorder which she has every right to do, and wants to be called a man, then She should have completed the transformation and become a full man. Removing all parts of her that made her a woman... IE her Reproductive organs ect....by her not having these parts removed and choosing to conceive a child, this make her a woman. It is my opinion and im sticking to it... Thank you... I am not here trying to make everyone else follow suite... Im just saying how I feel just like everyone else that has posted...  | | | | Status: Online
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May 7th, 2008, 17:10 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | Firstly, he is a he, not an "it" as some of you are referring to him as.
Secondly, it has been scientifically proven that whether you are male or female is entirely to do with your brain, not whether you've got a willy or a fanny.
It makes me sad that so many people are still un-educated when it comes to matters of gender.
I think this man is doing a wonderful thing and I wish him and his partner all the best luck in the world!  | | | | Status: Offline
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May 7th, 2008, 17:37 PM
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I'm Currently Feeling: | Well in light of the Subject matter, It is probably best that we ALL agree to Disagree on this one  It would be a shame that anyone gets hurt feelings over it...  | | | | Status: Online
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May 7th, 2008, 19:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TashaAndBump This 'woman' has always felt as if he were a man trapped in a female body... shouldn't we respect his belief and feeling that he is male and not female? | Taking the actual baby out of the picture: This has hit the nail on the head for me! So what part of pregnancy is to do with this way of feeling like he is a man? Sorry, I understand and feel for people who are born in the wrong bodies, I have a friend who went thru this whole process for years, but I feel to some extent this is making a mockery out of it. I mean to carry a baby and give birth, is that really a 'mans' thing? Surely this would just remind him of who he used to be and has spent a large part of his life escaping? This is my opinion only and I am entitled to it, as is everyone else who has posted. x | | | | Status: Offline
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May 7th, 2008, 19:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam Taking the actual baby out of the picture: This has hit the nail on the head for me! So what part of pregnancy is to do with this way of feeling like he is a man? Sorry, I understand and feel for people who are born in the wrong bodies, I have a friend who went thru this whole process for years, but I feel to some extent this is making a mockery out of it. I mean to carry a baby and give birth, is that really a 'mans' thing? Surely this would just remind him of who he used to be and has spent a large part of his life escaping? This is my opinion only and I am entitled to it, as is everyone else who has posted. x | i do agree with you TAM...if you want to be a man you have to understand and live with a man way of life ...i am sorry but my husband can't carry a pregnancy for me ...that is just the way human nature is since the begining i think...so if you want to be a man and live like one and i have people recognize you as a man and your wife can't not have a baby well you do like every infertyl couple do ...seek some option like adoption etc...
like everyone it's my opinion... | | | | Status: Offline
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