the medical advances from the 90s haven't changed enough she's saying

I think that even if you took into account the difference between the 70's and now, there still isn't enough of an improvement for the guidelinesto be challenged.

Though (and I know it's rare) sometimes contraception can fail. Condoms can split and the morning after pill doesn't always work even when taken in the time frame suggested. But I agree. I know people who have used Abortion basically as a contraceptive choice and I really do think that is not what it's there for.

I think it should be lowered too from 24 week although it's rare after 12 weeks. I didn't find out I was pregnant on Summer until I was about 14 weeks. I had lost a load of weight before getting pregnant and periods were stopping and was seeing dietician so I really didnt think I was likely too get pregnant as dietician had told me that I was ruining my body and fertility. so it was abit of shock when I did find out and at only 18 and Summer's dad didn't stick by me my mothers instinct reaction was that I had too have abortion. as I was in uni etc.. my mother didn't want me too ruin my life. But came too desicion before going too docs that I was going too keep the baby but at the doctors the first thing he asked was if I was going too keep the baby?! He said himself after 12 weeks the nhs don't really like too do it and that doctor had known only one other case of someone having it after 12 weeks. My nan was offering too pay for me too have it done privatley when I finally told her when I was 20 weeks pregnant and had my scans my nan well my great nan I mean she is evil cow. nice way too talk about my nan I know but she does think world of Summer now.

getting back too topic. I watched 5 mins then had too turn it off. I very stupidly got preg when Summer was just a few weeks old with Summer's dad and things werent working and realised I made a huge mistake and had abortion which I regret everyday and if 'm honest don't allow myself too thinkof it. that was november 2005 so coming up too two years. But I know if I didn't do that i'd prob still be suck with Summer's dad who was sh*t really wouldn't have met Chris or had Jack.

i'm so broody for another but gonna have too wait for a few years i'm only 21 now.

I think if the law was changed people would still find a way to do it and that is why the law should stay as it is. When abortion was totally illegal it still happened, often to the detriment of the women involved.

Most NHS places won't accept an abortion after 12 weeks anyway so you have to pay and go to a specialised centre (as I understand it).

It's a tough call tbh, it's a small helpless human being who has no way of defending themselves, but being born unwanted could become an even worse outcome.

There are also the situations of sexual abuse/incest/rape etc to consider, where later abortion could still be the better result.

I just can't imagine an abortion at 24 weeks! that is half term already, the baby looks like a tiny human being already!

sorry the thought of it makes me feel sick and I better won't google for that pics you guys here mentioned.

besides a human being with a genetical defect, dependant on the grade and kind of defect, might def be able to have emotions as well!

for example I child with downs is able to laugh and feel happiness the same way as a child without a defect!

I was very glad as well when I found out at my 20 weeks scan everything appears to be normal and tbh I do not know what I would have done if not so!

but I think I could'nt have gone for an abortion only 'cos the child may look different with downs than others! I would have just felt like a murderer!

It isn't always the case people choose to have late abortions as the child would look different. There are genetical conditions such as Jarcho-Levin syndrome or edwards syndrome etc, with these it isn't a case of your child looking different but the very real fact they will not live past a year. My heart goes out to anyone who has to make this decision, and I believe that they need the time to recieve the correct counselling so they can make the right decision for them, and ot feel rushed.

for me it would be emotionally the better choise having the child passing away of a natural" death after one year 'cos of a disorder rather than having an abortion

The stories I have read from mothers who have made this decision have really really thought about it, what is best for their baby, and for them. You might be able to give birth to a baby who was going to die (naturally isn't always painfree) but others feel that the best decision for them is to have the termnation, and this does not make them murderers, this makes them parents who like the rest of us want the best for their child.