Anyone seen this?

ames_x · Mar 31st, 2009, 12:42 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ends-beer.html

Mynxie · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:26 PM

I can understand both views.

Someone shouldn't be imposing their beliefs onto someone else, however TBH there are times due to my own personal circumstances, that I have thought the same as the mangeress said (ie, pregnant women shouldn't do something) and I can understand that she may have been upset, but I think she was wrong in saying something. It isn't her place.

AppleBlossom · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:30 PM

I can also understand both views. On one hand, yes you shouldn't really drink when pregnant. However, a recent study found that actually there has been no major evidence to suggest that drinking (not binge/heavily) affects and unborn baby especially the way smoking and drugs do. The woman says it was her second pregnancy so she is obviously experienced and doesn't look like the kind of woman who goes out on the lash while pregnant. One drink would have been fine. It wasn't up to the people in the pub to refuse her and send her away. It's up to the woman

**polo_princess** · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:34 PM

Situation was dealt with completely wrong IMO

Aria · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:42 PM

Should her baby be born with FAS, who will ultimately pay? The tax payers.

This isn't about enforcing personal beliefs on someone. There is major medical data backing up the harm. The staff doesn't know this woman to know if a little drinking that night was a one-time event or if it was nightly. Would they been seen as wrong if she was holding an infant and held the pint glass to the baby's lips?

I wish drinking and smoking while pregnant would be outlawed. There is such incredible evidence of the medical problems these cause. Why shouldn't the baby have rights? Why should it be born sick because the law sees them as clumps of cells?

Mynxie · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:52 PM

surely that's like saying that someone should be refused alcohol if they talk about driving in the pub? The person serving them doesn't know if they're going to drive after drinking alcohol and it would be the tax payers paying for the ambulance and treatment to take them and anyone else who may get hurt if they were to drink and drive, despite there being no knowledge if they drank and drove anyway. (drink driving knowledge relating to the bar staff not knowing if she was a binge/heavy/regular drinker and conflicting evidence from studies).

To go upto someone and tell them how to live their life or raise their child, is out of order IMO - and to tell someones friend (neither of whom you know) how to live their life or raise their child is worse IMO.

She was inflicting her opinion upon the woman, - there is no law re drinking during pregnancy in UK. It was her opinion that the woman should not be drinking.

broodylocket · Mar 31st, 2009, 17:54 PM

dealt with wrong i think. but can understand both sides.

AppleBlossom · Mar 31st, 2009, 18:03 PM

I agree with Mynxie. It was not the barwoman's place to send her out. There is no law in UK to not drink when pregnant. Nor enough evidence to say it is harmful. Personally when I was pregnant I didn't drink at all just incase. I get p***ed off when I see pregnant women smoking because I KNOW that they are harming their baby with every cigarette because the research done into it was conclusive

Louby · Mar 31st, 2009, 18:06 PM

At the end of the day its HER choice if she decides to drink through pregnancy

I seen a woman in the pub once who must have been at least 7months..she was hammered an smoking like a chimney-that in my opinion is wrong!

taperjeangirl · Mar 31st, 2009, 18:42 PM

i dont agree with drinking any alcohol during pregnancy, you don't need it so why take the risk? But that is just my opinion.

On the other hand though, if a woman is of sound mind they should be allowed to do what they feel best for their unborn baby.

The assistant manager should have dealt with it differently IMO, have ti say though, she was put in an awful position, if this woman was seen drinking her friends drink, the assistant manager didn't know how much alcohol she had drank in total, she could have been drinking her friends drink all night.

I don't think I would serve a pregnant woman alcohol, but i would deal with it differently, and more discreetly.

Sorry if this has offended!

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Mynxie Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a dungeon lol Posts: 5,954	I can understand both views. Someone shouldn't be imposing their beliefs onto someone else, however TBH there are times due to my own personal circumstances, that I have thought the same as the mangeress said (ie, pregnant women shouldn't do something) and I can understand that she may have been upset, but I think she was wrong in saying something. It isn't her place.

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AppleBlossom Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 25,860	I can also understand both views. On one hand, yes you shouldn't really drink when pregnant. However, a recent study found that actually there has been no major evidence to suggest that drinking (not binge/heavily) affects and unborn baby especially the way smoking and drugs do. The woman says it was her second pregnancy so she is obviously experienced and doesn't look like the kind of woman who goes out on the lash while pregnant. One drink would have been fine. It wasn't up to the people in the pub to refuse her and send her away. It's up to the woman

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Mar 31st, 2009, 17:34 PM	#4
polo_princess Mum (Mom) BabyandBump Team Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 45,510	Situation was dealt with completely wrong IMO

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Mar 31st, 2009, 17:42 PM	#5
Aria Pregnant (Expecting) Inactive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Redwood City, California, USA Posts: 874	Should her baby be born with FAS, who will ultimately pay? The tax payers. This isn't about enforcing personal beliefs on someone. There is major medical data backing up the harm. The staff doesn't know this woman to know if a little drinking that night was a one-time event or if it was nightly. Would they been seen as wrong if she was holding an infant and held the pint glass to the baby's lips? I wish drinking and smoking while pregnant would be outlawed. There is such incredible evidence of the medical problems these cause. Why shouldn't the baby have rights? Why should it be born sick because the law sees them as clumps of cells?

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Mar 31st, 2009, 17:52 PM	#6
Mynxie Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a dungeon lol Posts: 5,954	surely that's like saying that someone should be refused alcohol if they talk about driving in the pub? The person serving them doesn't know if they're going to drive after drinking alcohol and it would be the tax payers paying for the ambulance and treatment to take them and anyone else who may get hurt if they were to drink and drive, despite there being no knowledge if they drank and drove anyway. (drink driving knowledge relating to the bar staff not knowing if she was a binge/heavy/regular drinker and conflicting evidence from studies). To go upto someone and tell them how to live their life or raise their child, is out of order IMO - and to tell someones friend (neither of whom you know) how to live their life or raise their child is worse IMO. She was inflicting her opinion upon the woman, - there is no law re drinking during pregnancy in UK. It was her opinion that the woman should not be drinking.

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broodylocket Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, England Posts: 2,276	dealt with wrong i think. but can understand both sides.

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AppleBlossom Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Liverpool, UK Posts: 25,860	I agree with Mynxie. It was not the barwoman's place to send her out. There is no law in UK to not drink when pregnant. Nor enough evidence to say it is harmful. Personally when I was pregnant I didn't drink at all just incase. I get p***ed off when I see pregnant women smoking because I KNOW that they are harming their baby with every cigarette because the research done into it was conclusive

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Louby Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,166	At the end of the day its HER choice if she decides to drink through pregnancy I seen a woman in the pub once who must have been at least 7months..she was hammered an smoking like a chimney-that in my opinion is wrong!

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Mar 31st, 2009, 18:42 PM	#10
taperjeangirl Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,827	i dont agree with drinking any alcohol during pregnancy, you don't need it so why take the risk? But that is just my opinion. On the other hand though, if a woman is of sound mind they should be allowed to do what they feel best for their unborn baby. The assistant manager should have dealt with it differently IMO, have ti say though, she was put in an awful position, if this woman was seen drinking her friends drink, the assistant manager didn't know how much alcohol she had drank in total, she could have been drinking her friends drink all night. I don't think I would serve a pregnant woman alcohol, but i would deal with it differently, and more discreetly. Sorry if this has offended!

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