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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 15:44 PM   #41
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So is that different to the pneumoccocal?

Jesus there are so many-Rebecca just got another appt thru for 5th March have no idea what this one is..

**EDIT** Just checked it says "Hib/Men C". Is this a controversial one? Risks etc?


 
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 15:48 PM   #42
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Thats the new one. It is a different one to the pneumococchal one. I am not aware of any risks linked to it apart from those associated with iminnisations generally.

Seren was getting appointments through constantly and I had no clue what they were for. She had the Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib) and meningitis C one but after that I just thouight that I wasn't sure what they were putting in my baby and why so that is why I am going to cancel her next appointment when it eventually comes through


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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 15:52 PM   #43
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Quite right, they immunise right left and centre, and tbh I just let them and have no idea what it is. Bad I know.

But I wont be so care free with the MMR. Think I will go for the separate immunisations.

Thanks for the help Beanie :wink:


 
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 15:54 PM   #44
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I have just found this - these are the main changes to the immunisation programme

Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) has been introduced into the immunisation programme. The first vaccine is at two months, the second at four months and a booster is given at about 13 months. A 'catch-up' programme is available for children aged under two who started on the old immunisation programme.
The schedule for Haemophilus influenzae type b has been modified, with the addition of a booster immunisation at about 12 months, given as a single injection with meningitis C booster.
The schedule for meningitis C has changed. Previously, three doses were given, one each at two, three and four months. Now, primary doses are at both three and four months, with a newly introduced booster at about 12 months given as a single injection with Haemophilus influenzae type b booster (see above).


so the table is as follows

Age of child Disease (and vaccine)
2 months Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTaP/IPV/Hib)
Invasive pneumococcal disease (PCV)
3 months Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTaP/IPV/Hib)
Meningitis C (MenC)
4 months Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTaP/IPV/Hib)
Invasive pneumococcal disease (PCV)
Meningitis C (MenC)
About 12 months Haemophilus influenzae type b and Meningitis C (Hib/MenC)
About 13 months Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR)
Invasive pneumococcal disease (PCV))
3 years 4 months to 5 years old Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis and polio (DTaP/IPV or DTaP/IPV)
Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR)
13 to 18 years old Tetanus, diphtheria and polio (Td/IPV)


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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 16:00 PM   #45
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That is quite a lot in the early years


 
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 16:18 PM   #46
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I know

I have just been passed this link and am thinking about this.

Spreading out the shots and decreasing the number of injections. As you can see, there are a lot of shots during the first two years of life, often three or four injections at one visit. This can be overwhelming for parents and quite an ordeal for babies. Here are some tips on how you can spread out the shots and decrease the overall number of injections. Ask your doctor about these options:

1. Use a combination Hib/HepB in one injection. There is only one brand that makes this combination. Ask your doctor.

2. There is a Hib vaccine that only requires 3 total shots, instead of 4. The six-month dose is skipped. This is the brand also used in the combination Hib/HepB above.

3. There is one brand of DtaP/Hib that can be combined for the 4th dose at 18 months, but not the earlier doses.

4. During the first two years, most of these shots don't have to be given at the exact above ages. They can be given over a wide range of months. Here are the options for altering the schedule during the first two years:

Spread it out. Each shot should be given at least 6 to 8 weeks apart, except for HepB. (The first two doses can be one month apart – or longer).
HepB. These three shots can be spread out at any time during the first two years. You don't have to start at one month. It can be safely delayed if you wish. The second and third doses must be 4 to 6 months apart.
IPV (polio). These three shots can be given at any time, starting as young as 2 months of age, with the 3rd shot usually between 15 and 24 months.
DtaP. These 4 shots can be given at any time, with the 4th shot usually between 18 and 24 months.
Prevnar. These 4 shots can be given at a variety of times. Additionally, if you wait until your baby is over age one, he will only need one or two shots, instead of four (however, he goes without protection during the first year).
Hib. Can be given at a variety of ages.
MMR and Chickenpox. These can be given any time after the first birthday, and don't have to be given together.
HepA. This does not have to be given at age two. You can delay this one for years.
5. To avoid getting more than two shots at a time, ask your doctor if you can come in for some "shot only" visits in between your regular check ups. This can avoid giving your child as many as four injections at once. One drawback is that you are coming in for a greater number of painful episodes.

6. If the number of shots during these first two years is simply overwhelming to you, the talk with your doctor about spreading them out over several years. The shots that you can safely delay (illnesses that your child has little or no risk of catching as an infant, or are not serious for infants) include Polio, Hep B, and Hep A. A note on Polio: it is not safe to delay this shot if you plan to live in or travel frequently to Africa and some other third world continents. You may also consider delaying the Chickenpox vaccine until your child is done with the rest of the infant immunizations (although delaying this does put your infant at risk of catching the illness). If you give the M-M-R components separately, start with the measles first after age one, then mumps at least one year later, then eventually rubella.

from http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/T085200.asp


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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 16:42 PM   #47
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I agree there are alot of injections in the first 2 yrs of life but they must need them, lets face NHS aren't goin to waste money on stuff people don't need

The first 2 yrs of a childs life is their most vunerable ones.

Jack had the new Hib and men C jab on thursday and he will have the MMR in one jab next month. Get in all over and done with in one jab rather than giving him ANOTHER 3 seperate ones.

Beanie i understand your cares hun, i hate taking jack for his jabs so i want it over and done in 1


 
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 17:23 PM   #48
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I've totally forgot about the pneumococchal injection!!! Reece had a reminder for it before we moved last year, about October I think. Ooops I will have to make an appointment tomorrow. I hope it is ok for him to get it this late on


 
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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 17:27 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Yvonne
lets face NHS aren't goin to waste money on stuff people don't need
that is one way of looking at it but there is also the alternative arguement that to vaccinate is a whole lot cheaper then to sort out the social conditions that contribute to many children being at risk of complications from measles, mumps etc etc :wink: sorry am playing devils advocate now

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Beanie i understand your cares hun, i hate taking jack for his jabs so i want it over and done in 1
hehe I can remember saying to my mum, "why cabn't I just have one big needle and get it over with" - I hated my jabs soo much.


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Old Feb 25th, 2007, 17:29 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by Hazel&Reece
I've totally forgot about the pneumococchal injection!!! Reece had a reminder for it before we moved last year, about October I think. Ooops I will have to make an appointment tomorrow. I hope it is ok for him to get it this late on
it should be hun.


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