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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 07:37 AM   #21
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i am obsessed to - i too struggle to sleep when lo is asleep - so frustrating and i'm always looking for tips

going to look into sleepsense too - i did get the free report but haven't purchased it yet - hubby will kill me as i have bought a few sleeps books already lol
You get it all electronically, there's a booklet and some videos to watch. And a helpline too if you are having problems with it. I'd say it was well worth the money!


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 07:38 AM   #22
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How much does it cost?


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 08:11 AM   #23
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How much does it cost?
$47, which I think is about thirty quid these days.

Whether or not it will work for everyone, I don't know. She says she has a very high success rate, and it worked for us.

But (and there always is one!!) It isn't a magic bullet, it isn't a simple, stress free solution - as that doesn't exist! It was difficult not to pick her up and console her when she was fussy, and we had to "tag team" each other the first few nights as it was stressful, but we stuck with it. We took the view that the problems we had been having up to then could have continued for months and we just couldn't cope with the stress of that. We preferred to get it all over and done with in a short period to mucho stress and as a result, now it is a breeze.


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 08:56 AM   #24
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i was going to ride it out and see how he sleeps after 6 months. do you think thats too late to wean off rocking/walking/feeding to sleep?


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 08:56 AM   #25
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Foogirl, what age was Abby when you started the sleep sense programme with her? I'm wondering if Thomas is a bit young? Or is it something that you can use at any age?

My problem is that he can go to sleep fine at bedtime with no props, no soother, goes into cot awake, will chat to himself for a few minutes, suck his thumb and go off to sleep. But when he wakes up during the night, I can't seem to calm him down without feeding him, even if he's only been fed an hour or two before and really isn't hungry. But I don't think he's old enough to go the whole night without a feed yet and I don't mind feeding him when he's hungry, but feeding every two hours is totally counter-productive because it just gives him loads of wind and I also think it's setting up a night waking habit. But how do I know if he's really hungry or not? And why won't he go back to sleep himself at night when he wakes up, seeing that he can do it fine at bedtime???

Oh and I have to bounce him to sleep in his chair for all his naps too. But it's more the night time wakings that I want to change because it's interrupting both his sleep and mine!!


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:16 AM   #26
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It's all I ever think about!!! Please I need sleep and Darwin needs it too. I just wish we could fall asleep b4 1.30am.


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:49 AM   #27
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Foogirl, what age was Abby when you started the sleep sense programme with her? I'm wondering if Thomas is a bit young? Or is it something that you can use at any age?

My problem is that he can go to sleep fine at bedtime with no props, no soother, goes into cot awake, will chat to himself for a few minutes, suck his thumb and go off to sleep. But when he wakes up during the night, I can't seem to calm him down without feeding him, even if he's only been fed an hour or two before and really isn't hungry. But I don't think he's old enough to go the whole night without a feed yet and I don't mind feeding him when he's hungry, but feeding every two hours is totally counter-productive because it just gives him loads of wind and I also think it's setting up a night waking habit. But how do I know if he's really hungry or not? And why won't he go back to sleep himself at night when he wakes up, seeing that he can do it fine at bedtime???

Oh and I have to bounce him to sleep in his chair for all his naps too. But it's more the night time wakings that I want to change because it's interrupting both his sleep and mine!!
I started Abby when she was 4 months actual, but as she was 11 weeks early, she was really just a two month old baby at that point.

The program can actually be used for newborn babies, although the strategy is different and allows for the closeness and cuddles they need. It does 0-3 months then 3-6 months, then 6-12 months and again these are all slightly different. It sounds like you would do well with the 3-6 month as you've already got the sleeping at bedtime cracked. One hint I was given was, if I am sure she isn't waking for food, send in my husband to deal with the nighttime wakings as she associated me with food. That did help.

What you should find, is that the night time wakings become less if his naps get better. It sounds the wrong way round but Abby definitely sleeps better all night if she has had given good nappage!


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:52 AM   #28
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oh dear, not sure my oh would appreciate getting up in the night and then having a very long day at work but agree it makes sense.


 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 11:06 AM   #29
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Oh! How could I have missed this, sleep obsessed person that I am??

Foogirl - That sounds very similar to the method in the babywise book - right down to the difference at 3 months and the methods of soothing.

I went through a rampage of posting about sleep in my journal once I realized that my LO wasn't a traditional "colicky" baby, but was not sleeping nearly enough. He is a grump anyway, so paired with not enough sleep and all I was doing during the day was trying to soothe him as he would cry and fuss for most of it. Since becoming sleep obsessed, it has been sooooo much better!!!

A strange new problem has suddenly surfaced though. He had been sleeping through from 9pm-6am (for several weeks - wooooo - finally!!) then feed and sleep until 9am. He used to go to sleep right away at night, but now he goes to bed, falls asleep, then wakes up about 20min later wide awake and flailing his arms/kicking like a mad man. Then starts the annoying 2 hour process of trying to get him back to sleep. Dang!!! This has been the case for the last 4 nights - very weird! When he wakes at 6am it is also a bit of an ordeal as well.

As soon as one thing goes well, it's another LOL !

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Old Feb 23rd, 2010, 11:26 AM   #30
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Oh! How could I have missed this, sleep obsessed person that I am??

Foogirl - That sounds very similar to the method in the babywise book - right down to the difference at 3 months and the methods of soothing.

I went through a rampage of posting about sleep in my journal once I realized that my LO wasn't a traditional "colicky" baby, but was not sleeping nearly enough. He is a grump anyway, so paired with not enough sleep and all I was doing during the day was trying to soothe him as he would cry and fudd for most of it. Since becoming sleep obsessed, it has been sooooo much better!!!

A strange new problem has suddenly surfaced though. He had been sleeping through from 9pm-6am (for several weeks - wooooo - finally!!) then feed and sleep until 9am. He used to go to sleep right away at night, but now he goes to bed, falls asleep, then wakes up about 20min later wide awake and flailing his arms/kicking like a mad man. Then starts the annoying 2 hour process of trying to get him back to sleep. Dang!!! This has been the case for the last 4 nights - very weird! When he wakes at 6am it is also a bit of an ordeal as well.

As soon as one thing goes well, it's another LOL !

xx
I swear they just like to keep us on our toes - don't want us getting too comfortable!! LOL!

Well done getting him sleeping through the night though! Must have been lovely feeling!


 
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