Do the tired signs change as they get older?

Sarah+ · Nov 25th, 2009, 20:23 PM

Hi,

I'm finding it harder and harder to put my LO down for his naps during the day. He will start yawning and getting a little grumpy so we head for the nursery, change his nappy, into the grobag, little cuddle etc. But when he hits the cot, loud crying and he doesn't settle, even when I pick him up. He just seems wide awake, even babbling. Should I be letting him yawn and show his tired signs for half an hour or so now that he's 4 months? I just don't want to get into that 'over-tired' space as we all know how hard it is to put an over-tired baby to sleep! It's hardest first nap of the day, when he's yawning after 1.5hrs after getting up. Should I just keep him up longer?

Thanks

goddess25 · Nov 25th, 2009, 20:53 PM

I dont think it changes, Euan rubs his eyes and his nose when he is tired and i find that i feed him first, then put him to bed and usually its pretty good.

Mum2b_Claire · Nov 26th, 2009, 02:52 AM

Yeah, Ruby's tired signs have definitely changed. She used to just get cranky and do a moany cry, or just fall asleep, but now her eyes look red, she rubs her eyes, and if I'm holding her, she rubs her face into me.

**Arcanegirl** · Nov 26th, 2009, 06:53 AM

Yep they have changed fo us aswell, used to just be a yawn but now he yawns for no reason but his true sleep signs is rubbing eyes, rubbing face into me/the floor.

Could you change his nappy after a nap rather than before? Chbanging the nappy couuld be waking him up so that yours getting the struggle to get him to sleep again.

faille · Nov 26th, 2009, 07:00 AM

Not really..

She still rubs her eyes or rubs her face into my shoulder if I'm holding her, she still yawns, she still looks tired and she still pulls on her ear sometimes.

I have got better and just "knowing" that she's tired (even when none of the above are evident, I'll still just "know") so I actually find it easier to put her down for naps now.

I do remember though that at about 4months it was very difficult to get her to nap during the day. I remember myself and a few other mums with babies the same age posting numerous threads about it.

So I don't know if it's just an age thing for you but it didn't last long for us (couple weeks max).

maybethistime · Nov 26th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Hi hun

aaliyah tends just rum her eyes, I tend to ignore the yarning as she sometimes yarns after a nap in the morning, after I feed her I tend to give her teddy/rag doll and put her down, change before feed so the feed tends 2 knock her out (so 2 speck)

sapphire20 · Nov 26th, 2009, 07:57 AM

I ignore the yawning aswell, I find she yawns even when shes not physically ready for a sleep, she starts to rub her eyes and when shes really tired she plays with her ear! Signs have def changed as before she used to not really give us any signs and she always got over tired, I agree with someone above I just seem to 'know' when its time for sleep!

elly75 · Nov 26th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Before, it used to be just the yawns and the little cries. These days, we can tell he's tired if he rubs his eyes/face or buries his face into our shoulders or chest.

Sarah+ · Nov 26th, 2009, 20:07 PM

Thanks everyone

I think it's those yawns throwing us off - he seems to do them randomly now, when I know he isn't really tired yet. Will keep a lookout of the other signs more.

Nov 25th, 2009, 20:23 PM	#1
Sarah+ Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Do the tired signs change as they get older? Hi, I'm finding it harder and harder to put my LO down for his naps during the day. He will start yawning and getting a little grumpy so we head for the nursery, change his nappy, into the grobag, little cuddle etc. But when he hits the cot, loud crying and he doesn't settle, even when I pick him up. He just seems wide awake, even babbling. Should I be letting him yawn and show his tired signs for half an hour or so now that he's 4 months? I just don't want to get into that 'over-tired' space as we all know how hard it is to put an over-tired baby to sleep! It's hardest first nap of the day, when he's yawning after 1.5hrs after getting up. Should I just keep him up longer? Thanks

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Nov 25th, 2009, 20:53 PM	#2
goddess25 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: vancouver Posts: 5,592	I dont think it changes, Euan rubs his eyes and his nose when he is tired and i find that i feed him first, then put him to bed and usually its pretty good.

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Nov 26th, 2009, 02:52 AM	#3
Mum2b_Claire Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 13,905	Yeah, Ruby's tired signs have definitely changed. She used to just get cranky and do a moany cry, or just fall asleep, but now her eyes look red, she rubs her eyes, and if I'm holding her, she rubs her face into me.

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Nov 26th, 2009, 06:53 AM	#4
Arcanegirl Pregnant (Expecting) BabyandBump Team Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 25,658	Yep they have changed fo us aswell, used to just be a yawn but now he yawns for no reason but his true sleep signs is rubbing eyes, rubbing face into me/the floor. Could you change his nappy after a nap rather than before? Chbanging the nappy couuld be waking him up so that yours getting the struggle to get him to sleep again.

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Nov 26th, 2009, 07:00 AM	#5
faille Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kent UK Posts: 3,681	Not really.. She still rubs her eyes or rubs her face into my shoulder if I'm holding her, she still yawns, she still looks tired and she still pulls on her ear sometimes. I have got better and just "knowing" that she's tired (even when none of the above are evident, I'll still just "know") so I actually find it easier to put her down for naps now. I do remember though that at about 4months it was very difficult to get her to nap during the day. I remember myself and a few other mums with babies the same age posting numerous threads about it. So I don't know if it's just an age thing for you but it didn't last long for us (couple weeks max).

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Nov 26th, 2009, 07:54 AM	#6
maybethistime Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bolton Posts: 2,105	Hi hun aaliyah tends just rum her eyes, I tend to ignore the yarning as she sometimes yarns after a nap in the morning, after I feed her I tend to give her teddy/rag doll and put her down, change before feed so the feed tends 2 knock her out (so 2 speck)

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Nov 26th, 2009, 07:57 AM	#7
sapphire20 Trying to conceive (TTC) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,391	I ignore the yawning aswell, I find she yawns even when shes not physically ready for a sleep, she starts to rub her eyes and when shes really tired she plays with her ear! Signs have def changed as before she used to not really give us any signs and she always got over tired, I agree with someone above I just seem to 'know' when its time for sleep!

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Nov 26th, 2009, 09:56 AM	#8
elly75 Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,153	Before, it used to be just the yawns and the little cries. These days, we can tell he's tired if he rubs his eyes/face or buries his face into our shoulders or chest.

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Nov 26th, 2009, 20:07 PM	#9
Sarah+ Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Thanks everyone I think it's those yawns throwing us off - he seems to do them randomly now, when I know he isn't really tired yet. Will keep a lookout of the other signs more.

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