we had v similar. i'd feed him to sleep and v gingerly lie him down only fo him to startle himself awake. I thought that it was wind but like Rach321's comment about undeveloped systems as he would always bring up milk/sick. If Infacol doesn't work there are other v similar products which i've heard are better. Tescos sell one in green packaging.

There were lots of tears from everyone.

Speak to your HV. I called them and they were really, really helpful. I might have got lucky with who answered the phone.

He often ended up asleep in my husbands arms.

Walks were a mare as he wouldn't lie flat without screaming.

We got a baby bjorn sling and it is invaluable.

It does get better. We have had the problem that he still wakes when we put him down because he doesn't want to be in his cot when he can be with me but by putting him down when he is awake but sleepy he is slowly getting the idea.

It won't do him any harm to have a few minutes of crying in his cot while you make a cup of tea and relax.

Yeah tried infacol, it didnt make any diffrence tbh. You can get colief on prescription once youve tried it. I used it on DD too, and tried weening her off it at 3mths and the one bottle it didnt have it in she SCREAMED after and was in so much pain =[. I love the stuff tbh, but im using Cow and gate comfort milk atm and it seems to work just making him very pooey lol.

Yeah OH is driving me insane! he has never done one night feed and i dont think he ever will =[ he changes his bum in the night but thats it lol only do it if hes had a poo

Oh girls, you're really helping, just even knowing that other people have gone through the same situation makes me feel a little better. Re putting Monty in his cot crying, I am scared of doing this. Scared that he will be unhappy and will think I have deserted him. Did you actually walk out the room, or just put him in a cot in the room that you were going to be in for a while, or what? LOL, I'm meant to be an older and wiser mum ... but you know what, I reckon whether you're 16 or 3 when you have your first, you all go through exactly the same hopes and fears.

Re reflux, I am not convinced that this applies to Monty, as he is not sick very often at all compared with some babies. Am I right in thinking with reflux we'd expect him to be possetting and bringing up loads of milk after every feed? If so, then it almost certainly isn't reflux, as he is sick only a teensy bit perhaps just once or twice a day. I forgot to say that I am BF - not sure whether that's relevant in any way?

Please girls, keep the suggestions coming.

Silent reflux doesn't bring up sick as far as I am aware xxx

i havent read all the replies but it sounds just like Alex a few weeks ago. You say he'.s windy too? so was alex.

i took her to the GP and they said it was 'just baby being baby'. now i know Alex well, too well, I've known her ways since her 27th week of gestation. I was not convinced.

a few days later Alex remained the same. I was in pieces. I called NHS 24 and i wasnt taking no for an answer. they took alex tol an outpatients dept and the doctor said shes fine, soft tummy, not constipated,,,everything the p.revious GP said.

i wasnt convinced. When I got home, i gave her 2mls of Lactolase. Its bought over the counter and the neonatal advised us to try it when she was not pooing. So i tried it again. and she had a dirty nappy and became the baby i knew instantly,like magic.

i spoke to my HV about this. I asked her why the docs dont believe shes bunged up just because shes got a soft tummy. my HV agreed, and sometimes you just need something to kick start things again. she also recommended that if i dont want to use lactolase, putting an additional 1oz of water in the milk would help. However I felt lactolase worked without compromising anything. Its 100% safe and i know many mums that have to use it even daily!

PS she screamed the house down as soon as you put her on her back. the pressure was obviously upsetting her.

I've never left Noah to cry for more than 5 mins. When we have really bad patches and i can't calm him and I'm getting upset I have put him down somewhere safe walked out of the room and made myself a cup of tea. It really helps and was recommended by HV. You have to be happy and healthy for your LO.
I had one day when he hadn't slept for more than 30 mins in 10 hours (something like that). He just refused to sleep. The HV said to put him down for 5 mins and let him cry and then go in and pick him up and calm him, I had to repeat it until he slept. It was so hard but in an emergency (well babies need their sleep) it was the best thing for him.
I wasn't expecting it to be so hard. It doesn't help when you hear people talking about sleeping through. I still struggle to get him to sleep when i go to mum and baby groups where i see some mums just pop them down and they're asleep. So unfair.
Make sure that you sleep when you can. I'm becoming a master of half hour snoozes.

I was going to suggest a dairy intolerance like some others have. You can get hypoallergenic milks prescribed by your doctor. My baby is on Wysoy but it is not recommended for boys, and anyway, some babies also have a soya allergy. So you could ask your doc if he thinks it is that?

Also, Freya would scream everytime she was on her back, we ended up somehow coping for the first couple of months, then as soon as she could hold her head and chest up we bought a safety mattress and started sleeping her on her front. Sorted. I understand some people will not be comfortable with this though. As long as you research it and do what you are happy with!

We ended up discovering that colicky (often bad colic caused by milk intolerance) babies are much more confortable on their fronts. However, I did sit and watch Freya sleep for about 2 weeks after we started put her down like that.

Just a thought

Leyla has been quite collicky in the evenings pretty much since birth. We've found her vibrating bouncer to be invaluable for getting out trapped wind. We put her in it, turn it on and two minutes later you can hear her farting from the other room! It really calms her down and lulls her to sleep. I wasn't keen on leaving her in it asleep for long but the HV said it won't do any harm.

Sometimes when she won't sleep because of tummy ache (or I assume it's tummy ache), lying her on her left side seems to help. I think it's something to do with the way the bowel lies in the abdomen and lying on the left helping to move wind along. Obviously I don't like leaving her like that so I watch her until she's properly asleep then roll her onto her back.

I read somewhere that tummy tubs are great for collickly babies. Maybe worth a try?

Firstly, hugs to you

It is so hard trying to cope with a baby who won't stop crying.

I know you said this has been an ongoing issue and so not linked to a growth spurt - but I wonder if your LO has had growth spurts in addition to the other problems and this has made things worse here and there? Growth spurts are quite frequent in the first few weeks - I think they could be every few days. There is a three week spurt which I believe is quite a big one - it did stand out for me.

I remember thinking - she can't possibly still be hungry. She was (well - either hungry or feeling a need to stimulate more milk).

What is your LO's weight like - has it been going up okay?

It is easy (and totally normal) to become angry, distressed and very negative and hopeless feeling when this kind of thing is going on.

Do you have a friend or relative who would take LO out for a walk for a bit to give you some respite? Even if it is only for half an hour - baby might cry the whole time, but will be with company who can reassure and comfort him so he knows he is not crying alone (which is the important thing). He will not starve if you have a short break. Sometimes there is nothing you can do to console baby, and when it gets to the point where you are really struggling, it cam be good for both of you for LO to go out round the block with someone else. If they could use a sling, that might be better than the pram - or they could try lying him on his front in the pram (it would be like tummy time, but in a pram)?

How did the cranial osteopathy go? Did it help at all?

You could try a tummy tub - I've heard they can help colicky babies - a simple bucket would work in the same way I think. It's basically warm water in a bucket - so baby can bathe sitting up. Apparently the position reminds them of the womb.

When my LO was born she had problems with her legs and could not sleep on her back. Doctor said it was okay for her to sleep on her front in these circumstances, which she did. She now sleeps on her side at night and on her front during the day. Have you tried having him sleep on his side? You can use a rolled up blanket to support him (in baby first aid the baby recovery position uses a blanket to prop baby on his side).

There is a way of holding LO called the colic hold. Baby lays face down across your forearm with his face at your hand, or the other way round with face at your elbow end. This position can work better if you stand up and sway, and some babies like to suck on the side of your thumb on your other hand. Might be worth a try? Could your OH give it a go?

Don't worry about giving in to your LO. You aren't. He is not able to manipulate or understand cause and effect at this stage. That is not why he is crying (the crying is a symptom of having some kind of unmet need) and you will not do any harm by responding very frequently. At the same time, if you need 5 mins break, please have one - it will not do him any harm.

I hope some of that helps!

Hang in there.