Anyone who has purchased the 'New 2008' Angelsounds'...

http://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-second-trimester/30162-angel-sounds-tips-2.html

This is a follow on from the above thread.... If anyone has any purchased this model, please leave details.

Many Thanks :)



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Thanks Nikky :)

This is the model in question.

But I'm not sure if mine's a 2008.
It's Angelsounds,pink,with a gel and headphones?

P.S. Thets quite an effort you took,nice caps lock they really make you pay attention :lol:

Yeah, the one you have is the one that is being sold everywhere and has a really good reputation. The 'New' one however, looks comletely different...

Check out item number 360048741615 on ebay. This is the one I'm wondering about ??

I nearly bought that but googled it and couldnt find any reviews so didnt bother! Thats rubbish if its not even a proper doppler. There was a site I found (cant rememebr where now sorry) that explained the difference between amplifiers and dopplers and how alot of amplifiers are being sold as gel-less dopplers but they arent!

I've got this off the same woman....

She span me some crap about her paying extra to have me one sent direct from the suppliers as the one she had was faulty and she was laid up in pre-term labour.......

WANTED!

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Dead or Alive....

I've just sent her a message. I cant believe I have only just registered the feedback....:hissy:

I have just sent this message to the ebay seller where I purchased my Angelsounds from...

This is what it said:

Hello.

I recently purchased this product from you, and after seeing various comments about it not working, I took it upon myself to contact Unisar. I'm now in contact with their management, and have given them the details of my purchase.
Obviously, I am very concerned that people who are in a sensitive position are being taken advantage of, and feel that someone has to stand up for them.

If you want to reply to this message, to myself, and others concerned. Please visit this link, and leave your comment.

Can I also ask, why so many have been given the same story in reply to why the product takes so long to come.

Looking Forward To Your Reply.

http://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-second-trimester/30253-anyone-has-purchashed-new-2008-angelsounds.html

Can anyone who has posted in the other thread, please post in here with their purchasing experience also. Just to keep everything in one place.

Thanks Peeps :)

Obviously, I am very concerned that people who are in a sensitive position are being taken advantage of, and feel that someone has to stand up for them.




Sensitive indeed. So sensitive that they wouldnt dream of questioning another pregnant woman in pre-term labour.....

Some people will do anything to make a quick buck, not considering the people who really are going through hell..........

Truly low...But on that page there are some great feedback fom people,is that false?

No, I think, like myself, they're so excited when it comes, they just leave positive. How many people would wiat til they found it... thinking that maybe it was a bit too early..... I'm gutted that I left such a positive.. :hissy:

This is my contact with Unisar......

Hi,



Thanks for the email and the info. I’ll be looking at it shortly and hopefully answer any inquiries.







Sincerely,



*************

Unisar Inc.

15 West 36th Street

New York, NY 10018
T: 800-233-1196
F: 212-736-6762

E: info@unisar.com
W. www.unisar.com






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From: Ann - Marie ******** [mailto:****************]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:10 AM
To: **************
Subject: 'Angelsounds' prenatal heart listener dispute.



Hi there,

I am sending you the links, as per our telephone conversation, regarding the possible mis-selling of the above mentioned product.

I'm hoping that this can clear up an ongoing discussion currently being had on babyandbump.com

This is the product under question

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=360048741615&Category=87169

also, this is the thread where the discussion is taking place....

http://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-second-trimester/30162-angel-sounds-tips-2.html

Thanks for taking the time to look into this. Please understand, I'm not going this for personal gain, I just hate to see people being conned. And especially when it comes to something as sensitive as an unborn child.

Thanks In Advance

Ann-Marie ******.
**** ******

No, I think, like myself, they're so excited when it comes, they just leave positive. How many people would wiat til they found it... thinking that maybe it was a bit too early..... I'm gutted that I left such a positive.. :hissy:

Those comments sound like that woman is Mother Theresa...

:hugs: Don't worry,I think they pretty much got that you're not happy :lol:
I just hope they truly DO look it up...

I added mine too quick and it says slow delivery but friendly seller or something - I only did it in the last 2 days!!! :hissy:

I have just sent this message to the ebay seller where I purchased my Angelsounds from...

This is what it said:

Hello.

I recently purchased this product from you, and after seeing various comments about it not working, I took it upon myself to contact Unisar. I'm now in contact with their management, and have given them the details of my purchase.
Obviously, I am very concerned that people who are in a sensitive position are being taken advantage of, and feel that someone has to stand up for them.

If you want to reply to this message, to myself, and others concerned. Please visit this link, and leave your comment.

Can I also ask, why so many have been given the same story in reply to why the product takes so long to come.

Looking Forward To Your Reply.

http://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-second-trimester/30253-anyone-has-purchashed-new-2008-angelsounds.html

Can anyone who has posted in the other thread, please post in here with their purchasing experience also. Just to keep everything in one place.

Thanks Peeps :)

I just received a reply to this message.....

Thank.you for your email. I am a little confused. Are you saying that the item isn't working?


uuummm !! :dohh:

And I'm now being told that the people on here who have described their transactions with this seller, are actually competitors 'bad mouthing' her.

Anybody want to reply to this???

even if you have left feedback u can add more to it u get like an extra feed back bit plus if u all used paypal u can get ur money bk

im an ebay seller myself and you can amend your feed back. have a poke around i cant remember exactaly how to do it but it is poss.

i also recommend contacting ebay directly so they can monitor her.

with regards to dopplers always read it carefully if it says prenatal listner or gelless doppler dont touch it with a barge pole.

big hugs all round

OH MY GOD! I got mine from there and exactly the same thing happened to me, down to the excuse that they were going to send me the last one in stock, and they realised at the last minute it's faulty and the main supplier was sending to me! I wonder if there's something we can do about this? Any ideas?

Oh my god.......

Guess which one I bought and what story she gave me.....

She also said she was laid up with pre-term labour at 23 weeks......

Hiya
Thank you for your email. The fetal heart listener you bought I actually have in stock and was going to send it to you myself, until I inspected it closely and saw that it was actually damaged.

In order to have a replacement reach you as quickly as possible I had my supplier send it to you direct, (rather than via me which would have extended the delivery time by double handling). I paid the extra postage so that it gets to you quickly.

Thank you so much for your understanding. I am doing my best to be a good eBayer : ) Please email me the moment it arrives.

All-things-special xx

This was what I got......

Cheers Darkheaven77 :) Hopefully this will help to stop people make the same mistake. :)

I have disputed with ebay and paypal, so hopefully it will be resolved.

I'm just so disappointed, as I was really excited about listening to bubs :(

Wait,will she send you a new one now?A WORKING one?

I don't know. To be honest, I'd rather get one from somewhere else, after all of the lies. :sigh:

But, that isn't the reason I'm doing this. I just think theres something dodgy about it. Don't like dodgy :hissy:

She has now offered me a full refund, which I have said she can complete through the Paypal dispute. I also said she still needs to resolve the matter with the other purchasers, and she still hasn't made any comment in relation to the mis-description, or the fact that I've contacted Unisar themselves... very strange.

We may be getting somewhere :happydance:

She has asked for the contact details for the lady I'm in touch with at Unisar, and is going to ask about faulty products.

And has agreed to issue a refund.

Lisa, have you heard from her at all.

And Sara.. did you get in touch too?

bought the 2008 version from all things special too on the 22.3.08... can pick up heartbeat so this means its working doesnt it??? pleas esay yes....

If you're sure it's the heartbeat, then yes. :)

posted on the other thread ann marie ive bought the same... from all things special feel like a wally

thought i heard heartbeat once and thats it im 22 weeks!!!
only norm hear bumps and gurgles using it.

what do you advise i do raise disput on ebay and paypal????

posted on the other thread ann marie ive bought the same... from all things special feel like a wally

thought i heard heartbeat once and thats it im 22 weeks!!!
only norm hear bumps and gurgles using it.

what do you advise i do raise disput on ebay and paypal????

If it's not doing what it says, then it has been mis-sold. She has agreed to the refund, although I have yet to receive it. Get in touch with her, and see what she says to you.

Let us know how it goes :hug:

If it's not doing what it says, then it has been mis-sold. She has agreed to the refund, although I have yet to receive it. Get in touch with her, and see what she says to you.

Let us know how it goes :hug:
do i just email and say the item is faulty... i thought it was just me but if your having the same problem maybe its not me being stupid and unable to use it.
im confused... dont know where to start tried looking at the "HELP" part of ebay but thats as useful as a chocholate teapot!!!

do i just email and say the item is faulty... i thought it was just me but if your having the same problem maybe its not me being stupid and unable to use it.
im confused... dont know where to start tried looking at the "HELP" part of ebay but thats as useful as a chocholate teapot!!!

This is precisely the reason I started the thread. I knew some people would just think it was them, and forget about it. Contact the seller first off, to see if she can offer you the refund directly. If she can't, you go into you paypal account, select the transaction between you and her, and there should be the option of starting a dispute.

hmmmm

dunno if i wa dealing with the same seller, after 3 weeks of mine not being recieved I contacted her and was spun a web of lies alone with at least 9 others, I've just got my refund off paypal...alas no doppler to hear bubs :(

did she sell all-things-special ;)

it has been brought to my attention that the angel sounds prenatal heart listener i bought from yourself is faulty or a fake. I havent been able to hear baby's heartbeat since i bought it although I am 22 weeks pregnant. I have followed the instructions given in the manual although that has the company name of bebesounds on it.
I would like a full refund please including P&P as i feel you have sold either a faulty item or a counterfeit item whichever it is i did not receive the item described.
please get back to me thank you.

thats what ive just sent, do you reckon thats okay???

yup.. sounds fine... although, no-ones actually proven that it is a fake, just that it's being mis-sold as an angelsounds doppler, which is totally not what it is....

yup.. sounds fine... although, no-ones actually proven that it is a fake, just that it's being mis-sold as an angelsounds doppler, which is totally not what it is....

:hissy::hissy::hissy:either way its a heap of shit!!! lol :hissy::hissy::hissy:

in a nutshell :)

thank you for your email. I can assure you 100 % that this is not a faulty or counterfit item. This is the brand new 2008 model. have you tried down low?

Just had that reply to my message so i sent...


I have indeed, it doesnt work so it is in fact either faulty or counterfeit. i just want my money back. are you prepared to refund my money including P&P?

What gets me, is that I have asked her a number of times to come on here and defend her position if she is genuine, and we have yet to be graced with her presence.... Although I have seen a few guests lurking.

the more i think about this the more pissed off i am... if they are selling fakes, how do they know its not going to harm unborn babies???
I AM FUMING!!!!

What gets me, is that I have asked her a number of times to come on here and defend her position if she is genuine, and we have yet to be graced with her presence.... Although I have seen a few guests lurking.

put it this way if i was selling genuine items and i recieved emails alerting me to the fact that they're faulty/fake and also informing me that there is a forum topic dedicated to my ebay sellers name I'd be here in a flash backing myself up !!!
I think the fact the seller allthingspecial hasnt bothered speaks volumes.

It won't harm your bubs, as it's just a pile of pants.. a glorified microphone... it's just the fact that she's taking advantage of us preggers lot, with a product that doesn't work....

...at least i hope it won't :shock: as I've used it over and over again to no avail :(

Hi Girls,

I've been out and had these replies while I was.....

Excuse me? I am currently on bed rest and have my supplier send for me at the moment. I do.not drop ship and have never done so. Have you received your item as yet?

allthingsspecial@gmail.com

Then followed by.....

Unfortunately other sellers of dopplers feel it necessary to put other sellers down. Its a very competitive market. I have even had other sellers open new accounts just to report other sellers of dopplers. Its ridiculous but it happens.

Let me know if you have your fetal heart listener now.

Thanks
All-things-special.
allthingsspecial@gmail.com

This person just sends the same email out to EVERYONE!!

OH . MY . GOD !!!
She really must be stupid !!!!!!!!!! How can she be sending out these ridiculous messages, knowing full well that we are all comparing notes on here !!?? :dohh:

My reply.....

Yes I have received it and it is not a doppler as described.

I like the other people who have been mis-sold this item am going to be taking this up with ebay and paypal. I want a refund. You have sent the exact same identical email about the 'damaged' item and claiming to 'pay extra postage to get it to me quicker. Its word for word the same!!! Three of us from the same forum have had it and fortunately I have also kept my copies. Myself and others are now in touch with each other as you are aware.

I will be disputing this with paypal and ebay and I will be returning the item.

Their response....

thank you for your reply. The model you bought is the new 2008 angelsounds product from unisar. Its a genuine prenatal heart listener. Why are you saying is not a true item? its the new model and on my listing it says a prenatal heart listener. Its the new model. The people who started this thread are competitors - you need to understand this. This is not a fake product.

If your product is faulty you need to let me know and I will offer you a full refund and return the item to unisar.

My response....

We are in touch with Unisar as you know. You have misrepresented the item as a DOPPLER in your listing.

Ebay have advised me to dispute it on that basis.

We all know who the guest viewer is......

As if anyone could be arsed to be a member on here just to start a thread to put down an ebay seller!!!

Well said Lisa !!!!

Another reply....

please read my full listing - its says prenatal heart listener. Doppler is a keyword like everyone else uses. Unisar have been manufacturing this since the beginning of this year. They also sell the bebsounds product that you will see others selling on ebay. www.bebesounds.com

My response....

Key word spamming is not allowed. Its like saying a replica designer bag is like a Louis Vuitton so people searching for an LV bag get your listing.

If I dont get a refund then I will continue to pursue this with ebay and paypal.

.... or should I admit to nearly 2000 posts, and a lie about potentially losing my baby, just to bad mouth an ebay seller.......
:x:x:x:x:x <<<<<<< that doesn't even come close !!!!!!!

more....

I have offered you a full refund. Please let me have your paypal details. Did you want to return the item to me to forward to unisar or will you be sending it yourself?

and I said.....

I really dont mind where it goes as long as I get a refund.

My issue is with you not Unisa. You mis represented it not them.

Give me the return address an I will send it first thing in the morning.

* breathe Ann-Marie *

.... She said she would refund me, but I've yet to see it......
Although, she's probably dealing with the sudden innundation of emails she's received......

right raised a pay pal dispute...

Dispute Timeline

You and the seller have 20 calendar days to resolve this dispute. Your dispute will automatically close on 22 May 2008 unless you or the seller escalate it to a PayPal claim.

By escalating to a claim, you would be asking PayPal to review the dispute and decide the outcome. We will email you a reminder when the deadline is approaching. Once a dispute is closed, it cannot be re-opened or escalated to a claim.

nice one

nice one

giving the seller a few days if they drag their feet or if they dont reply ill escalate to a claim and then paypal decides. must remember 20 days though!!!!

by the way thanks ann marie i really thought i wasnt using it properly (even though i read the instructions enough timesand im not stupid)
haha hetty wainthrop investigates... :rofl:


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

I've raised my paypal dispute. She says she is logging on now to sort it and then sending me Unicas details to send it to.

I told her I dont have a problem with Unica - they didnt mis represent the item as a DOPPLER.

She sent me loads of links to listings doing the same thing. I told her I dont care what others do - I didnt buy from them. I've had a similar thing with a fake handbag and ebay resolved in my favour - they said if others get away with items its irrelevant. You get busted and you have to sort it.

Let you know if I get a refund. I will not let this drop.

Well done Ann-Marie. We need to make sure all B&B members know about this seller - esp if we dont get a refund any time soon.

You all made it happen :)

I'm hoping Unisar get back to me tomorrow. She had asked for my Unisar contact details, but I very much doubt she'll be contacting them herself. Why would she need to ask for contact details, when according to her listing she is an 'Authorised Unisar Inc. Dealer'... yeah right !!!

You all made it happen :)

I'm hoping Unisar get back to me tomorrow. She had asked for my Unisar contact details, but I very much doubt she'll be contacting them herself. Why would she need to ask for contact details, when according to her listing she is an 'Authorised Unisar Inc. Dealer'... yeah right !!!

Exactly.


x

I preferred your other reply :rofl:

I preferred your other reply :rofl:

:roll:

I've received my refund !!!!

i got mine too just checked

Still waiting for mine......

Good News!! It seems that all but one of this particualr model has been withdrawn from sale on ebay. For now anyways. Let's just wait for it to be listed under a different name....... We'll be waiting !!!!

Well done Charlie's Angels...:rofl:
That woman dodn't even know what hit her....*claps*

Had another email today.....

Hiya
I will do it today for you. sorry for any inconvenience caused in keyword spamming - it wasnt intentional - i was just following what other pre-natal heart listener sellers were doing using doppler in the title.

All the best,
xx

STILL no refund as yet.....

Had another email today.....



STILL no refund as yet.....

i got my refund not long after i raised a paypal dispute.
have you raised one?

Keep chasing it Lisa.
I have checked again and it's definetely been removed from sale :)
Result!!

I got my refund!!!!!

:happydance:

God, we're good.....

x

You guys made a difference in the world...

Ok, so i emailed her and she responded, in 6 minutes!!!

this is what she said ; thankyou fr your email. If you are unhappy with the products then i offer a full money back guarantee

Do you still have the original packaging?



Emailed her to say i had. and she refunded me through paypal, said she would forward the return address to me. But at least i got my refund inc p+p. I was gonna withdraw my feedback but seeing as she sorted the matter out within in an hour and half i'll just see if i can figure out how to change it.

Do watchdog deal with things like this? With it being ebay i'm not sure??

WOW! Big BIG BIG thank you to Ann Marie for sorting this out, and to everyone else for pursuing refunds! I've just emailed them and asked for a refund. This is what's been said by them:

Thank you kindly for your email. I can assure you 100% that this is a genuine Angelsounds item. That I can promise you, I have had 2 other complaints about this and this has all been started by another ebayer who sells the old angelsounds model. We are currently taking that ebayer to court. If you are unhappy with one of my products then I offer a full money back guarantee. Do you have the original packaging for this item?

I do indeed so I will see what she says about returning and getting the refund.

Have you all bought a different monitor now, and what would you recommend???

Thanks for all the info about this, I bought one a few weeks ago from All Things Special and it was rubbish. I've bought a proper doppler since then and even when I find baby with that I still can't hear anything on the Angel Sounds listener.

I also got the sob story email about her being on bed rest due to pre-term labour and like a fool I felt sorry for her! Fancy using an excuse like that, grrrrr.

Anyway, having read the info on here I emailed earlier today and said it had been mis-represented in the ebay listing and she's given me a full refund already (I've checked my PayPal account and its definitely there!). I asked her for the address to return it to and she told me to either keep it or bin it - she's applied for a full refund from the manufacturer because she's told them it was faulty! Hopefully those of you who have been in contact with Unisar will put a spanner in this for her :-)

Thanks again

Abi

Thanks for all the info about this, I bought one a few weeks ago from All Things Special and it was rubbish. I've bought a proper doppler since then and even when I find baby with that I still can't hear anything on the Angel Sounds listener.

I also got the sob story email about her being on bed rest due to pre-term labour and like a fool I felt sorry for her! Fancy using an excuse like that, grrrrr.

Anyway, having read the info on here I emailed earlier today and said it had been mis-represented in the ebay listing and she's given me a full refund already (I've checked my PayPal account and its definitely there!). I asked her for the address to return it to and she told me to either keep it or bin it - she's applied for a full refund from the manufacturer because she's told them it was faulty! Hopefully those of you who have been in contact with Unisar will put a spanner in this for her :-)

Thanks again

Abi

Good news abi!! Can i just ask what doppler did u buy in the end and how far gone r u? I'm a bit wary for purchasing now!!

Glad to see the info has helped so many :D

I'm not bothering to buy another one, as I can feel her move quite alot now.
:hug:

Hiya!
I have emailed her and got this back (quite quickly)

Thank you for your email. Another ebayer who has been selling angelsounds reported my items as fake and not dopplers. This is untrue. They are currently being taken to court for opening 3 forums and trying to have my ebay account shut down. Thus I have been asked to hold off selling any other angelsounds products for the immediate future. I am not the 1st person they have done this to.

If you are not getting on with any item that you bought from me then I offer a 100% money back guarantee.

If you let me have your paypal details I will issue you a full refund inc postage.


- all-things-special


Yay! thanks Ann-Marie! :hugs:
I had just stuck mine in a drawer and never bothered with it, just passed it off as one of those pointless purchases!

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