Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

I have done tons of reading on this product and it's effect on lengthening the luteal phase and also increasing progesterone levels.

I suffer from high prolactin levels and as a consequence I have low progesterone levels. Progesterone is VERY important to make a fertilised egg implant otherwise, even though you may have conceived, the egg breaks down and you will experience a period.

From what I have read - Vitamin B6 must be taken with care. A dose higher than 200mg per day can cause nerve ending damage and you must ensure that you are getting enough of the other B vitamins.

I am presently on a Prenatal and I have decided to supplement with Vitamin B6 and with Agnus Castus capsules.

Dosage:
It is suggested not to take more than 100mg unless it is given by a doctor. So I have decided to take 100mg per day - this is jumping in on the deep end really - LOL. If I experience any side effects - I will lower it to 75mg.

If I do not get pregant soon, I will share my experience of taking this vitamin as I go along.

I am three months off the pill and my cycle is at 32 days at present, it does not seem I have a luteal phase. I have "JUST" a 12 day luteal phase at present. But - I want to increase my progesterone level so if I lengthen my LP by 2 days in the process I'd be happy! :)

I took 65mg of B6 for a few days. I also have a 12 day LP. It gave me hot flashes in the morning. I read that you should take B6 with equal amounts of B12. A B complex vitamins usually has that. I will go in for a progesterone test in a few days and it will probably show that I didn't ovulate. I will probably go see the doctor after that.

Hi guys!

Last month was my first month of charting luteal phases. My period actually came two days earlier than I expected and I ovulated two days earlier than expected. I charted, like you two, a twelve day luteal phase (slightly shorter than average). Apparantely 10 days or below needs to be checked out.

Now, I don't know if 12 days is usual for me, as last month's period came earlier than usual, but I thought I would start taking B6 just in case. I started two days after ovulation (which I read was recommended) - 10mg is in my Pregnacare tablets and I have topped this up with 50mg B6 tablets from Holland and Barrett (they were quite cheap, only about £2.50).

I ovulated on day 14 this month (last month was day 16) so, we'll see. I don't know what is up with my cycle the last two months!!!

Oh, do you think that taking vitamin B6 in my Pregnacare supplements (last month was the first month of taking them) has changed my cycle any - 'regularised it' :rofl:as SB would say?

LOL - well poppy - many women have reported that B6 has indeed "regularised" their cycle!! LOLLOL - :rofl:

So - could have done indeed!!!

This is my first month taking it....so...watch this space :)

I would also be interested to know if the Vitamin b has had any affect as i also have high prolactin. when i was in my early 20's i actually used to lactate but then it sort of cleared itself up. a recent blood test showed that my prolactin was at 26 (apparently this at the top end of 'acceptable' level). i do think i have
conceived a couple of times (had morning sickness etc) but then still get AF (grrr) maybe i can't make enough progesterone.

good luck with the vitamin b and i think the complex (pill with all the b's) is the way to go :hi:

This is my third month ttc and I only realized how important the Luteal phase length is last month. I can't say anything about the first month's Luteal Phase length as I was officially pregnant for a whole 3 days that, I knew about anyway, (oh what a feeling!), but last month my Luteal Phase length appeared to be only 11 days. I wonder if my chemical pregnancy messed up that one though as it was only 24 days long and I'm normally 25/26 I think.

I've started on 50mg of B6 everyday in addition to my Pronatal 2.5mg B6. I hope that if AF does have to come this month that she at least doesn't show her ugly face too early!!!

I'll let you know if the B6 seems to make any difference.

Hi

My LP is only 6-9 days so a definate problem. I have toyed with Agnus Castus but decided not to as am likely to be prescribed clomid next week and the 2 dont go together. However I am taking 50mg of B6. I've been taking the 10 thats included in ASDA pregnancy vits for ages but have now added another 40 so here's hoping.

Been doing 50 for about 10 days now and this month my LP did manage the whole 9 days so thats somewhat better already! (Could be a coincidence I suppose).

So interested to read anything anyone knows or has experienced.

That's great result Florence - keep us informed if you see any further help!

AF showed but on CD26 and if I ovulated on CD13 like I suspect then I had 12day Luteal Phase, so one day longer than last month - it could be the B6 or it might not be! I've decided that there is no harm in continuing it though!

I took this last month but my cycle went from 32 days to 39 days - could this have been the reason??? I'm a bit reluctant to carry on taking it don't really want my cycle being that long, Didn't experience any side effects though

Bumping up for HAYS to see x

When should you take it? after O or all the time?

I've just bought some and started taking it today CD3 (only just got it). Does anyone know if this is right? Don't you have to take vits for a while to see the effects anyway? So taking it for only part of the month wouldn't really work would it?

Hi,
I've just started taking B compound because I heard you shoud take B6 with an equal ammount of B12. I'm taking 100mg (one pill), and have my fingers crossed. So far all that is happening is that my pee is neon yellow (totally freaked me out first time I saw it, apparently it's normal), my pms symptoms have quadrupled in severity (even my cats are hidding from me), and I'm menstruating like it's going out of style.
Has anyone else had these side effects? Second, if I do become preggers do I continue taking B6? Anyone know?

You can continue, there is no harm. All the B-Vitamins are water soluble, so they come out in your pee. The neon yellow is common. If you are worried, just cut back your dosage. I cut back on mine and my pee is less neon now.

Thanks Vestirse. I was told to take 100 - 200mg because my LP is only 3 days (!), I really hope it helps.

Three days?! Yes, I would take the higher amount. I usually have 28 day cycles, but only an 11 day LP. I am now on 14DPO!!! Not sure if it's the B-Complex I'm taking or pregnancy. I'm hoping pregnancy of course. BTW, I'm on 50mg of all the B vitamins, so you can see a change even as little as that I think.

I started taking vit b complex this cycle, as i was having long irregular cycles.

I am CD26 and ovulated yesterday, this is great in comparison to ovulating on day 56 last cycle. so for me it had so far regulated my periods which is great.

no side affects though. will keep you posted on lp.

Wow, 56+ day cycle? Mine's 28-30 days but being on the pill really screwed up my whole cycle. It's taken me 10 months and I'm still not back to my pre-pill cycle. I'm just glad that I'm ovulating at all, my girlfriend just found out she doesn't :(

I'm sorry knitpicker's friend! Try Vit B Complex - couldn't hurt right?

I don't think i ovulated until my previous cycle as i never got pos opk unitl day 56.

i've been off pill since march an my longest cycle was 81 days - with no ovulation. but i was on the pill for 13years was made to go on it as a teenager as my cycles were scatty (6week bleed nearly made me ill) i was soo scare to come off them in case it went back that way - now i will honestly tell you i will never ever go back on a pill (hubby ok with condoms)

Howdy!

I am noticing as I chart for the second month, that my temps are close to my baseline - and on two occasions, at the baseline. Considering that I am 6DPO, this is a concern! I've read that this could indicate low progesterone so I am reading about that. Would it be at all beneficial for me to start taking B6/Bcompound now?

Thanks!

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I've read that too. I think this late in the game, natural progesterone cream might be your best bet. Vit B6 is supposed promote the health of the follicle as it matures. Because it makes the follicle healthier, the corpus luteum (what is left behind when the follicle pops off) is also thus healthier and produces progesterone for a longer period of time (if your LP was short and the corpus luteum was causing it to be so short).

Since your egg has already popped off. I don't see how B6.B-Complex will help at this point in time, Natural progesterone cream however might if progesterone is what you lack.

That makes a lot of sense, thanks!!!!

Anyone have any recommendations for a progesterone cream? I guess I better get on this, cuz if the eggy is fertilized, it should be trying to implant soon!!!

:)
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You'll probably be able to find one at a natural foods store. I've hear ones with wild yam as an ingredient are better because it might be synthetic apparently if wild yam was not used. good luck!!

I found some wild yam stuff, but then I heard that it contains estrogen as well, and was intended for menopausal women. Will it still work, or will the estrogen negate the effects of the progesterone??

I'm so sorry, but I remembered it wrong. You should actually AVOID the ones with Wild Yam. I'm so sorry, I just went back and had a look around. I researched progesterone five months ago when I was getting serious, along with some other stuff. I remember it talking about Wild Yam and somehow remembered it as being better, but it's the other way around!!

SORRY SORRY SORRY!!!

EDIT: You know what, I'm confused now. A bunch of people say Wild Yam Root as an ingredient doesn't do crap and to avoid buying it because it's a waste of money. Yet the most recommended progesterone cream I can find on the ttc boards contains ... you guessed it... WILD YAM.

It's this one btw: http://www.happypmscream.com/progesterone-cream-ingredients.htm

Beyond Fertility sells it too: http://www.beyondfertility.com/catalog.php?item=5


I also saw this recommended a few times on some PCOS boards: http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/progcream.html

I got a kick out of the warning on the bottom of the page though:
Warning: Do not use if you are pregnant, lactating, or intend to become pregnant. For external use only. Avoid contact with eyes. Use intended for adults 18 years of age and older. Keep out of the reach of children. Do not exceed 2 oz. of the cream, or 0.5 oz. of the Mist, topically per month. Consult with a licensed health care practioner if you experience irritation, redness, or discomfort, any changes in breasts or menstrual irregularities, or before using this product if you have concerns about your health or if you have a medical condition.

In short - I am starting to have doubts about this stuff. Would you consider jsut waiting until the next cycle to start a B-Complex? Because the contradictory stuff I'm reading is scaring the crap out of me.

Oh yea - John Lee. This guy's name came up a lot and here are some creams this "doctor" recommends:
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_progesterone.html

The one I found recommended on the PCOS boards is there. The "happy pms" cream containing wild yam is not.

If you truly want to try NPC (natural progesterone cream), maybe the list he gives will give you a good start.

Umm, looking at your chart, I DO NOT think it is indicative of low progesterone!!!! My advice is not to try natural progesterone cream - you don't need it. I agree that your coverline is too high and it is probably the culprit in making it looked skewed to you. Coverline though is not scientific. It is just a tool used to help those who chart see a clear biphasic pattern.

You should put your chart in your sig!!

xposted on your thread about your FF chart.

Must report that this stuff worked for me. LP went from 11/12 days with spotting to 15 days with no spotting.

Congrats Vestirse! Thanks for sharing; it gives me hope! I'm on day 16 of my cycle so I'm still waiting to see what happens (fingers crossed).

Vestirse - congrats on your longer LP! That's great news. Gives me hope as well!

Hi there

I am new to this site and wanted to feedback my experience of short luteal phase. I had a luteal phase of between 9 and 11 days max. I read on sites like these so much about B6 and began taking 100mg a day mid cycle. I then read 'Nutrition and fertility cycles' where she suggests taking 200mg / day and says this is completely safe. Its a great book. I upped the B6 to 200mg and that cycle got pregnant. Sadly I miscarried, but the next time I got my period my luteal phase had been 14 DAYS!!!! VIT B6 WORKS!!!
The following cycle I am now pregnant again.
I really believe in the B6 - give it a go / read the book (I must check the author, but google / amazon it and you'll find it anyway!)
Wish me luck, this is my 3rd pregnancy now... (after 2 MC)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you L32. Unfortunately I'm not so lucky. I started taking 100 mg of B complex and went from a 7 day to a 13 day period. Plus I somehow managed to ovulate during my period! I've cut down for this month to 50 mg. We'll see. I'm still experimenting with the dosage.

Hi girls. Been reading your experiences on trying to deal with a short lp as I'm pretty sure I have one of those. Since I've been off the pill it has been getting shorter each month, culminating in a 9 day lp this cycle. I remember reading somewhere about Vit B helping some and it appears to be true. This is my first cycle ttc and I was disappointed that my af came so early.

My question is should you take a Vit B complex rather than just Vit B6, any recommendations?

Thanks in advance :)

Vit B complex definitely. Taking one b vitamin (like Vit B6) alone can cause a deficiency in the others and a deficiency in Vit B12 has been linked with miscarriage. Also taking all the B vitamins can help absorption. You actually waste a lot of vitamin B6 when you take it alone.

Thanks for your response. Sorry, for more questions:

Do you think a 100mg dose to start or less? How long had you been taking it to notice a difference? Do you take it throughout your whole cycle?

1. I am taking 50mg, but only because I didn't want to lengthen it too much - I already had an 11/12 day LP. You'll want to take more if you want to lengthen it more.

2. It took only one cycle.

3. Yes, I take it for the entire cycle. You can stop at O if you are so inclined I think because the work should be done (it does the most in the follicular phase), but it doesn't harm anything if you keep taking it.

I started taking 100mg of B6 and my LP went from 9 days to 12 days in just 2 cycles. I am currently taking a BComplex as well - it only has an additional 5mg of B6 - but I feel that it is important as started above to balance your B's out. I was really worried about my short LP and now - not so much. Now its just up to me to do the rest of the work. Hoping to increase my LP again this cycle - will let you know for sure.

I started at 100 mgs of B complex and it completely messed up my cycle. However, when I went down to 50 mgs this month my lp went from 3 days to 5 (and counting). I strongly recommend testing different dosages if one isn't working for you. Larger dosages aren't necessarily better or more productive.

I've been taking B-Complex this cycle (complete with neon wee - I almost had a heart attack when I first noticed it!). I took it until about CD19. I don't know whether it's made any difference yet as I can't pinpoint when I ovulated so I don't know what my lutel phase will have been this cycle.

It was 9 days last time which is why I'm trying the B-Complex, BUT the cycle was only 23 days last time and I'm on CD25 today so it might be helping! I will certainly be using it next time as well.